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<blockquote data-quote="steward71" data-source="post: 936044" data-attributes="member: 31677"><p>The reconcillation bill pushes back the implementation of the Tax of Cadillac health care plans from 2013 to 2018 and raises the thresholds from plans eligible for taxation from 8,500 to 10,200 for individuals and from 23,000 and to 27,500 for families. If the plans pay for such as generic drugs, counseling, organ transplants and mental health and too many others to list then believe me you have a cadillac. Case in point The AFL-CIO, the IBEW and CWA and Teamsters have remianed silent on their role in supporting the very legislation that is now being used agaisnt the workers they nominally represent. Case in point in Aug of 2011 Verizon workers were told by the company they would need to change the plans designs to aviod the impact of the cost. They conpany did asked the works to share in the cost of any where from 1500 to 3000 dollors a year. If you think you will not and can fall into this mess as workers for UPS and you want to keep your head in the sand then by all means please do so. For those who say you are not worried our master contract is up next summer of 2013, I would be worried. You are you going to understand this is a effort for unions and companies to say we are sorry we bent you over and you did not know it. This law is not going to save you money but take more from you. It is going to cost you more not the company or Teamsters. They both will rake in the benfits of this bill not you, just a reduction in money you take home and less benfits. Good luck with the money part you will have less of it. Oh by the way guess what is in the bill, well if you don't have insurance you will be fined by law for not having it. That is why the IRS is such a big part of the bill as well, shhh I did not tell you this but if you don't pay the fine for not having health care then they will take part if not all of your tax refund. So just think of it like this if you have kids and you have lets say 2. I think the fine is 650 person who is in the household who is not covered then times that by 4= to 2600 yer year. Sh** it is that math again. Well anyway i could be wrong but I don't think so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steward71, post: 936044, member: 31677"] The reconcillation bill pushes back the implementation of the Tax of Cadillac health care plans from 2013 to 2018 and raises the thresholds from plans eligible for taxation from 8,500 to 10,200 for individuals and from 23,000 and to 27,500 for families. If the plans pay for such as generic drugs, counseling, organ transplants and mental health and too many others to list then believe me you have a cadillac. Case in point The AFL-CIO, the IBEW and CWA and Teamsters have remianed silent on their role in supporting the very legislation that is now being used agaisnt the workers they nominally represent. Case in point in Aug of 2011 Verizon workers were told by the company they would need to change the plans designs to aviod the impact of the cost. They conpany did asked the works to share in the cost of any where from 1500 to 3000 dollors a year. If you think you will not and can fall into this mess as workers for UPS and you want to keep your head in the sand then by all means please do so. For those who say you are not worried our master contract is up next summer of 2013, I would be worried. You are you going to understand this is a effort for unions and companies to say we are sorry we bent you over and you did not know it. This law is not going to save you money but take more from you. It is going to cost you more not the company or Teamsters. They both will rake in the benfits of this bill not you, just a reduction in money you take home and less benfits. Good luck with the money part you will have less of it. Oh by the way guess what is in the bill, well if you don't have insurance you will be fined by law for not having it. That is why the IRS is such a big part of the bill as well, shhh I did not tell you this but if you don't pay the fine for not having health care then they will take part if not all of your tax refund. So just think of it like this if you have kids and you have lets say 2. I think the fine is 650 person who is in the household who is not covered then times that by 4= to 2600 yer year. Sh** it is that math again. Well anyway i could be wrong but I don't think so. [/QUOTE]
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