Future National agreements

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by bigrig, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. bigrig

    bigrig Member

    Future negotiation need to be done by people who are fighting for our members not anything else including ones self interest. Ups pays top notch labor lawyers to draw up contracts to benefit them. Fight with fire dont go to battle with rocks when the oppositions have weapons. What iam trying to say is amateurs have no chance against professional negotiators. :biting:
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The Teamsters also has a team of lawyers, accountants and actuaries which they use during negotiations.
  3. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    Yeah like Hoffa. Did us a lot of good.
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I voted "yes" on both the national and supplement. The raises were acceptable and we kept our healthcare. There were no changes that negatively impacted us here in Upstate NY IMO.
  5. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

  6. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    Oops sorry for got to space
  7. rudy5150

    rudy5150 Active Member

    Dont you care about other ups teamsters? What if upstate NY is targeted in next contract? We are one union, always look out for the best interests of all your brothers and sisters!
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

  9. InsideUPS

    InsideUPS Active Member

    There is no doubt that UPS has much deeper pockets than the IBT. With deeper pockets comes better "results" (lawyers, accountants, actuaries). Just look at any professional athletic team.... Championships are most often won with money...... Politics the same way.......
  10. TimeForChange

    TimeForChange Active Member

    So do you mean that when Hoffa & Co. pushed the 2002 dues increase through with the slogan, "A Nickle an Hour for Teamster Power", he was lying?
  11. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Hoffa really has zero input in our negotiations. He is a figure head. Upstate is correct. There are a lot of high caliber people involved.
  12. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I know u really could careless but the union does kind of depend on a group working together.

    There's no way we would the compensation package we have right now if previous generations had not stuck together.
  13. balland chain

    balland chain Member

    Hoffa showed up in Charlotte many years ago.. I asked him what he was going to do about our low pension payments here.. 3K for 30 years 2K for 25 years.. He said I will increase your pension, just like a politician . Our pension is the same unless you work 35 years. Our healthcare is crappy at best, and way overpriced for what we get. He has done nothing for us in Charlotte since he has been in office . Basically,he sucks !
  14. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    ​He is elected ... he is a politician.
  15. dirty moose

    dirty moose Member

    The reason our union is in the state it's in......
  16. uber

    uber Guest

    Take off your brown lipstick and pantyhose, stop being self-serving and realize that the reason you have what you have is because of your union. Its about the best civilian job a guy like you could have lucked into back in the day.
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You have to wonder just how strong the union really is if one or two self-centered members can have this much of an impact.

    Tough talk from a 30 day wonder who should be grateful for the job that he has.
  18. uber

    uber Guest

    Don't throw stones, if you if live in a glass house.
  19. UPS Preloader

    UPS Preloader Active Member

    30 day wonder? How so? He's been a member since 2009.
  20. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Zag has been a steady contributing member since 2009 with about 20% of his posts in the last 3 months.