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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 88453" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>In thinking back about it, that's a good point. I was pondering gas prices yesterday as I had to fill up and considering it didn't seem that long ago that I was paying around $1 a gallon and I'm talking late 90's if not into 2000's somewhat. I even chuckled of the good ole' days when my friends and I would walk the highway picking up soft drink bottles and taking them to the local store and turn them in for the deposit ($.05 each) and then turn around and buy gas for our mini bikes and then ride all day long. Gas then was in the $.20 a gallon range. Damn I sure miss Mayberry and the 60's!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Lol :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p> </p><p>I think the fact that through much of the 90's things were good and gas prices remained steady if not dropping slightly and we got in a comfort zone after we got kicked out of bed by gas in the 70's and the embargos. Although I look at the oil companies with a slightly suspicous eye, I also don't believe the entire problem is that simplistic and I don't think the solution will be either. </p><p> </p><p>I saw yesterday where some of the data that contradicted itself concerning global warming had now been reconciled and the picture is clearer that human activity is having an some impact so I think we are now upon the threshold that our energy needs and environmental concerns have truly crossed paths and many of the fly by night schemes I see being thrown about as a result of the upcoming election cycle will do nothing as it relates to this twin problem. I honestly think that the true solution is not going to be an overnight sensation but rather a long focused path that will take years. It amazes me that we can go to the moon, put a cellphone in seems like every ear, ship a package to China overnight and I could go on and on but we keep ourselves enslaved to a product and technology that was literally invented in the 19th century. We didn't accomplish these great feats overnight so why do we believe we'll advance to a new transportaion technology that also solves our environmental impact overnight also?</p><p> </p><p>I'm like moreluck in that I would have thought something better would be in place now but at the same time I have to ask this. Big Oil gets gov't support via various actions and the proof on the fly is the recent cries from various politicos about cutting gov't credits in order to use that money to help lower fuel costs at the pump. The Senator from NJ would suggested cutting the federal gas tax for 60 days also wanted to cut gov't oil supports in order to pay for the loss of the tax revs. to the gov't so there you go. At the same time how much gov't credit and subsidy goes to the various auto makers who keep doling out the same ole' thing? Now personally I'm for nobody getting nothing in the first place and let John & Sally Public keep their money and let the free market decide but reality is what it is. That being the case, then if our gov't only chooses to subsidize oil and auto makers who only produce a certain type of car and they gear the market towards such via regulation, then what are the odds that moreluck will ever get her Jetson mobile? The stark reality is if you want that Jetson mobile you and your neighbors are going to have to push and push and push the gov't to get it or better yet push them out of the way and let a free and open market solve the problem. Ah, what a concept!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" data-shortname=":wink:" /> </p><p> </p><p>And btw, I see a real potential future for micro energy generation on a home by home basis where the home itself is built and maintained in that effort but at the same time since the dawn of the 20th century we like all things centralized and planned so with that in mind we also need to push and push our illustrious peters...uh leaders to move away from coal fired electrical generation and more and more towards nuclear. Technology has gone way beyond what we had at 3 Mile Island and Chernoybl. </p><p> </p><p>c ya</p><p> </p><p>Something to watch that I was tipped to and seems to be true but gas drops on Tuesday and goes up on late Thursdays. From watching this is does seem to hold water in my area. The thinking is on Thursday they raise the price to benefit from weekend travel and it goes down on Tuesday because business slows as a result of people having filled up for the weekend are leaving for work on Monday low on gas so they fill up for the workweek on Monday. Sale Tuesday thru Thursday are slow so the price drops according to the demand. Watch this in your area and if it works do like I do and buy on Tuesdays or Wednesdays. Granted it's only a couple of cents a gallon but it does add up. Just an FYI.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 88453, member: 2189"] In thinking back about it, that's a good point. I was pondering gas prices yesterday as I had to fill up and considering it didn't seem that long ago that I was paying around $1 a gallon and I'm talking late 90's if not into 2000's somewhat. I even chuckled of the good ole' days when my friends and I would walk the highway picking up soft drink bottles and taking them to the local store and turn them in for the deposit ($.05 each) and then turn around and buy gas for our mini bikes and then ride all day long. Gas then was in the $.20 a gallon range. Damn I sure miss Mayberry and the 60's!:lol: I think the fact that through much of the 90's things were good and gas prices remained steady if not dropping slightly and we got in a comfort zone after we got kicked out of bed by gas in the 70's and the embargos. Although I look at the oil companies with a slightly suspicous eye, I also don't believe the entire problem is that simplistic and I don't think the solution will be either. I saw yesterday where some of the data that contradicted itself concerning global warming had now been reconciled and the picture is clearer that human activity is having an some impact so I think we are now upon the threshold that our energy needs and environmental concerns have truly crossed paths and many of the fly by night schemes I see being thrown about as a result of the upcoming election cycle will do nothing as it relates to this twin problem. I honestly think that the true solution is not going to be an overnight sensation but rather a long focused path that will take years. It amazes me that we can go to the moon, put a cellphone in seems like every ear, ship a package to China overnight and I could go on and on but we keep ourselves enslaved to a product and technology that was literally invented in the 19th century. We didn't accomplish these great feats overnight so why do we believe we'll advance to a new transportaion technology that also solves our environmental impact overnight also? I'm like moreluck in that I would have thought something better would be in place now but at the same time I have to ask this. Big Oil gets gov't support via various actions and the proof on the fly is the recent cries from various politicos about cutting gov't credits in order to use that money to help lower fuel costs at the pump. The Senator from NJ would suggested cutting the federal gas tax for 60 days also wanted to cut gov't oil supports in order to pay for the loss of the tax revs. to the gov't so there you go. At the same time how much gov't credit and subsidy goes to the various auto makers who keep doling out the same ole' thing? Now personally I'm for nobody getting nothing in the first place and let John & Sally Public keep their money and let the free market decide but reality is what it is. That being the case, then if our gov't only chooses to subsidize oil and auto makers who only produce a certain type of car and they gear the market towards such via regulation, then what are the odds that moreluck will ever get her Jetson mobile? The stark reality is if you want that Jetson mobile you and your neighbors are going to have to push and push and push the gov't to get it or better yet push them out of the way and let a free and open market solve the problem. Ah, what a concept!:wink: And btw, I see a real potential future for micro energy generation on a home by home basis where the home itself is built and maintained in that effort but at the same time since the dawn of the 20th century we like all things centralized and planned so with that in mind we also need to push and push our illustrious peters...uh leaders to move away from coal fired electrical generation and more and more towards nuclear. Technology has gone way beyond what we had at 3 Mile Island and Chernoybl. c ya Something to watch that I was tipped to and seems to be true but gas drops on Tuesday and goes up on late Thursdays. From watching this is does seem to hold water in my area. The thinking is on Thursday they raise the price to benefit from weekend travel and it goes down on Tuesday because business slows as a result of people having filled up for the weekend are leaving for work on Monday low on gas so they fill up for the workweek on Monday. Sale Tuesday thru Thursday are slow so the price drops according to the demand. Watch this in your area and if it works do like I do and buy on Tuesdays or Wednesdays. Granted it's only a couple of cents a gallon but it does add up. Just an FYI. [/QUOTE]
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