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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 622051" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>The supervisors should not be working. </p><p> </p><p>But I tell you what, I really get tired sometimes of the holier than thou rightious indignation attitude I hear in the operation and on this board from union folks who seem to be on a zealot't crusade against the evil, lying, swindling, step on the little guy management in this company. </p><p> </p><p>The contract says I as a management person should not be doing bargaining unit work. It lays out exceptions to this rule, and it lays out penalties for violating this rule. I am fine with all that.</p><p> </p><p>So, ethically, I feel my goal is to organize the work and the workforce under my responsibility so that I can service our customers without ever forwarding the progress of a package myself. (BTW, a pet peeve of mine is the dimwits who think the contract says I am never allowed to EVER even TOUCH a package. Yes, we have some.) Now, there are two instances where I feel I am totally within ethical bounds to actually do barganing unit work. The first, is if I am directed to do so by my superiors. Like everyone else, I must work as directed. The second is if there is not a union hourly immediately available and failing to do the work right then, would result in failure of service to the customer. In either case, I have absolutely no problems with someone filing and getting paid for it when I do. That is the agreement. I do not understand the management people who take it as a personal affront when someone files for payment under these rules. Any more than I understand the crusaders who take it as some sort of personal affront when a memeber of managment does work. Lordy the drama people like to add into this job.</p><p> </p><p>That said, nit picking and asking for something like a one minute grievance is taking the rightious indignation thing a tad far. You are not alone though, far from it. There are many who feel anytime a managment person forwards even a single package, it is not only their ethical right, it is their ethical duty to grieve it for all the poor souls on layoff. </p><p> </p><p>OK, but look at the other side of the coin for a minute. Lets say I was the management equivalant of one of these holy crusaders. Then I too would be working to ease the reduced hours and layoff situation in the hubs. Like today, when I walked up to a pen between two cars and overheard two loaders talking about baseball. Just standing and chatting. Not for any obscene length of time, maybe a minute. Instead of allowing the conversation to lag for a second then intruding with a good natured jest that got them back to work, were I a crusader, I would have found the nearest steward, and the nearest security member, and had them both walked off the property for stealing time. Sure it was only a minute, but so what, the rules don't say stealing only a minute is not stealing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 622051, member: 14596"] The supervisors should not be working. But I tell you what, I really get tired sometimes of the holier than thou rightious indignation attitude I hear in the operation and on this board from union folks who seem to be on a zealot't crusade against the evil, lying, swindling, step on the little guy management in this company. The contract says I as a management person should not be doing bargaining unit work. It lays out exceptions to this rule, and it lays out penalties for violating this rule. I am fine with all that. So, ethically, I feel my goal is to organize the work and the workforce under my responsibility so that I can service our customers without ever forwarding the progress of a package myself. (BTW, a pet peeve of mine is the dimwits who think the contract says I am never allowed to EVER even TOUCH a package. Yes, we have some.) Now, there are two instances where I feel I am totally within ethical bounds to actually do barganing unit work. The first, is if I am directed to do so by my superiors. Like everyone else, I must work as directed. The second is if there is not a union hourly immediately available and failing to do the work right then, would result in failure of service to the customer. In either case, I have absolutely no problems with someone filing and getting paid for it when I do. That is the agreement. I do not understand the management people who take it as a personal affront when someone files for payment under these rules. Any more than I understand the crusaders who take it as some sort of personal affront when a memeber of managment does work. Lordy the drama people like to add into this job. That said, nit picking and asking for something like a one minute grievance is taking the rightious indignation thing a tad far. You are not alone though, far from it. There are many who feel anytime a managment person forwards even a single package, it is not only their ethical right, it is their ethical duty to grieve it for all the poor souls on layoff. OK, but look at the other side of the coin for a minute. Lets say I was the management equivalant of one of these holy crusaders. Then I too would be working to ease the reduced hours and layoff situation in the hubs. Like today, when I walked up to a pen between two cars and overheard two loaders talking about baseball. Just standing and chatting. Not for any obscene length of time, maybe a minute. Instead of allowing the conversation to lag for a second then intruding with a good natured jest that got them back to work, were I a crusader, I would have found the nearest steward, and the nearest security member, and had them both walked off the property for stealing time. Sure it was only a minute, but so what, the rules don't say stealing only a minute is not stealing. [/QUOTE]
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