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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 236517" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Patrick Moore, co-founder of GreenPeace and now head of GreenSpirit speaks out on the issue of Deforestation and CO2 Greenhouse gas as it relates to the whole issue of timber and the timber industry. Interesting comments from someone who has been on the frontlines and who also help to start the "Green" movement as we know it today.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=67623834-a1af-42e4-91cb-28492a462651&p=1" target="_blank">http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=67623834-a1af-42e4-91cb-28492a462651&p=1</a></p><p> </p><p>BTW: In all the talk from Al Gore and others about enviro concerns, why have none mentioned a concept advocated very well I might add by the late actor Dennis Weaver and which still lives on today in what is called, Earthships? Goggle the term on the net and see what people are doing and what is already possible. Also when in Barnes and Noble, Borders or whatever, check the magazine rack for an excellent publication IMO called Home Power. With Home Power and other type magazines I've made changes in our home with nothing more than items found at any Home Depot, Lowes, etc. and although still on the Grid (hoping to change that in a few more years) with nearly 3k feet of living space and 2 central HVAC systems (1 upstairs and 1 downstairs) my recent electric bill with numerous 100 plus degree days never broke $100 a month and that with the thermostat set at 68 degrees at night. I like sleeping in the same place you can hang meat! LOL! Actually with super insulation, once the thermostat resets to 78 at 7 am, the system never comes back on until around 7 to 9 pm so I avoid system use during peak demand hours. </p><p> </p><p>We cook with gas and have 6 people in the house but with a tankless waterheater that mounts outside the house and a manifold distribution system I designed and built myself, our monthly gas bills never break $40 in summer and my high in winter is a $60 to $70 one. On average, my combined gas/electric together in never more than $150 per month. There are even more savings out there that I'm working on but the point is you can save lots of money but at the same time help the environmental situation and help the nation with a better energy policy. </p><p> </p><p>These folks were a huge help with tons of ideas and even on site examples of what works and doesn't. </p><p><a href="http://www.southface.org/" target="_blank">http://www.southface.org/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 236517, member: 2189"] Patrick Moore, co-founder of GreenPeace and now head of GreenSpirit speaks out on the issue of Deforestation and CO2 Greenhouse gas as it relates to the whole issue of timber and the timber industry. Interesting comments from someone who has been on the frontlines and who also help to start the "Green" movement as we know it today. [URL]http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=67623834-a1af-42e4-91cb-28492a462651&p=1[/URL] BTW: In all the talk from Al Gore and others about enviro concerns, why have none mentioned a concept advocated very well I might add by the late actor Dennis Weaver and which still lives on today in what is called, Earthships? Goggle the term on the net and see what people are doing and what is already possible. Also when in Barnes and Noble, Borders or whatever, check the magazine rack for an excellent publication IMO called Home Power. With Home Power and other type magazines I've made changes in our home with nothing more than items found at any Home Depot, Lowes, etc. and although still on the Grid (hoping to change that in a few more years) with nearly 3k feet of living space and 2 central HVAC systems (1 upstairs and 1 downstairs) my recent electric bill with numerous 100 plus degree days never broke $100 a month and that with the thermostat set at 68 degrees at night. I like sleeping in the same place you can hang meat! LOL! Actually with super insulation, once the thermostat resets to 78 at 7 am, the system never comes back on until around 7 to 9 pm so I avoid system use during peak demand hours. We cook with gas and have 6 people in the house but with a tankless waterheater that mounts outside the house and a manifold distribution system I designed and built myself, our monthly gas bills never break $40 in summer and my high in winter is a $60 to $70 one. On average, my combined gas/electric together in never more than $150 per month. There are even more savings out there that I'm working on but the point is you can save lots of money but at the same time help the environmental situation and help the nation with a better energy policy. These folks were a huge help with tons of ideas and even on site examples of what works and doesn't. [URL]http://www.southface.org/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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