G'mornin' UPSer's. There's new news out there in regards to the Amazon Effect

Ancient Alien

UPS Vacation
it's from Friday on the UPS Rising website.

It updates us all on what's going on with questions & answers.

More information to follow this week.

Check it out. June 29th Update.

"Amazon Effect"
 

Ancient Alien

UPS Vacation
As full-time employees, the combination drivers will receive full-time benefit coverage as provided under Article 34. Most of the work the combination drivers will perform is currently being done by part-time employees getting part-time benefits at a reduced wage rate. The creation of combination drivers will increase the number of participants in our health and pension plans and increase the amount of contributions the Company will be required to make. This new money will help solidify those plans that are doing well and help those that are struggling.
 

Ancient Alien

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When UPS members were asked to provide the National Negotiating Committee with their requests for a new contract, the following items were most frequently raised from every Local Union:

  • Reduce the number of hours package car drivers are required to work;
  • Prevent the Company from forcing package car drivers to work weekends;
  • Ensure that package car drivers can take more time off; and
  • Protect our medical and pension plans.
 

Ancient Alien

UPS Vacation
“Our members know that they work in a changing industry, driven by e-commerce and the ‘Amazon effect,’ where consumers want fast delivery and weekend delivery,” said Denis T, Director of the Teamsters Package Division and Co-Chairman of the Teamsters National UPS Negotiating Committee. “This new classification reflects this changing world while protecting our package-car drivers’ weekends, creating more full-time jobs and addressing excessive overtime.”

“We know how important weekends are for package-car drivers, to be able to attend their child’s activity or go away for a couple of days, and we also know how excessive, forced overtime has created upheaval within families,” Taylor said. “These new 22.4 Combination Driver jobs will address these important issues while also creating a new career position with the same excellent Teamster-negotiated benefits and a family wage.”
 

Ancient Alien

UPS Vacation
Denis T Co-Chairman, a man for the working man & woman.

>>>On behalf of the entire National Negotiating Committee, I also remind the membership, once again, that they should not rely on the misinformation that is circulating on the Internet. The groups that are generating that misinformation do not have your best interests in mind.”

What this is saying to all of the 260,000+ UPSer's is do NOT listen to the cranky 45 on Brown Cafe. These people do NOT have YOUR best interests at heart.

Think about it...
 

Benben

Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
HAHAHAHAHAHA,

"Please don't think for yourselves! Please just listen to us and believe everything we tell you!"

Sincerely, Management and the negotiating committees, who appear to have sold you all down the river!

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Ancient Alien

UPS Vacation
I understand the 'Angry 45', they're PO'd about working 70 hours late last fall. Clocking out at 11pm. They want revenge. They want justice! So to them, they've hardwired their brain to "Strike, Strike, Strike"... and it's even accentuated with their consumption of grundles of Gayle Ales. I get where they're coming from.

It's eating them up to be anti-establishment for all the wrongs they've endured over their careers. Walking out is like Senior Skip Day at school. The ol' 'Ha! We showed you!'

The business world unfortunately doesn't work like that. You must now re-wire your brain to forgive, forget and move on.

Striking now compared to 1997 would be disaterous. You must push your harsh feelings aside and focus on what's good about this contract. The committee addressed every single most important issue from every local. You can't ask for anything more from your negotiators fighting for you. You all asked for it and the IBT went out and made it happen and now your upset! WTH!?!

Listen, I am sorry $65,000-$120,000 a year isn't cutting the mustard for you guys paying $2800 rent for a 1-bedroom apt in Manhattan. Yet, understand the rest of us outside of the Eastern seaboard or L.A. are living pretty damn good as worker bees at UPS.

You need $150,000 to survive. Become a UPS manager. They earn that. You want happiness & security as a UPS FT employee. Transfer... move to Queens and live like a King!
 

DOK

Well-Known Member
I understand the 'Angry 45', they're PO'd about working 70 hours late last fall. Clocking out at 11pm. They want revenge. They want justice! So to them, they've hardwired their brain to "Strike, Strike, Strike"... and it's even accentuated with their consumption of grundles of Gayle Ales. I get where they're coming from.

It's eating them up to be anti-establishment for all the wrongs they've endured over their careers. Walking out is like Senior Skip Day at school. The ol' 'Ha! We showed you!'

The business world unfortunately doesn't work like that. You must now re-wire your brain to forgive, forget and move on.

Striking now compared to 1997 would be disaterous. You must push your harsh feelings aside and focus on what's good about this contract. The committee addressed every single most important issue from every local. You can't ask for anything more from your negotiators fighting for you. You all asked for it and the IBT went out and made it happen and now your upset! WTH!?!

Listen, I am sorry $65,000-$120,000 a year isn't cutting the mustard for you guys paying $2800 rent for a 1-bedroom apt in Manhattan. Yet, understand the rest of us outside of the Eastern seaboard or L.A. are living pretty damn good as worker bees at UPS.

You need $150,000 to survive. Become a UPS manager. They earn that. You want happiness & security as a UPS FT employee. Transfer... move to Queens and live like a King!
And moving your start time to 11:30 am because the hybrid will be doing your morning work is great huh. You’ll get your 8 hours and be punching out at 8:30pm, yay!
 

HEFFERNAN

Huge Member
I understand the 'Angry 45', they're PO'd about working 70 hours late last fall. Clocking out at 11pm. They want revenge. They want justice! So to them, they've hardwired their brain to "Strike, Strike, Strike"... and it's even accentuated with their consumption of grundles of Gayle Ales. I get where they're coming from.

It's eating them up to be anti-establishment for all the wrongs they've endured over their careers. Walking out is like Senior Skip Day at school. The ol' 'Ha! We showed you!'

The business world unfortunately doesn't work like that. You must now re-wire your brain to forgive, forget and move on.

Striking now compared to 1997 would be disaterous. You must push your harsh feelings aside and focus on what's good about this contract. The committee addressed every single most important issue from every local. You can't ask for anything more from your negotiators fighting for you. You all asked for it and the IBT went out and made it happen and now your upset! WTH!?!

Listen, I am sorry $65,000-$120,000 a year isn't cutting the mustard for you guys paying $2800 rent for a 1-bedroom apt in Manhattan. Yet, understand the rest of us outside of the Eastern seaboard or L.A. are living pretty damn good as worker bees at UPS.

You need $150,000 to survive. Become a UPS manager. They earn that. You want happiness & security as a UPS FT employee. Transfer... move to Queens and live like a King!

STEP AWAY FROM THE :censored2:ING KEYBOARD !!!!
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
“Our members know that they work in a changing industry, driven by e-commerce and the ‘Amazon effect,’ where consumers want fast delivery and weekend delivery,” said Denis T, Director of the Teamsters Package Division and Co-Chairman of the Teamsters National UPS Negotiating Committee. “This new classification reflects this changing world while protecting our package-car drivers’ weekends, creating more full-time jobs and addressing excessive overtime.”

“We know how important weekends are for package-car drivers, to be able to attend their child’s activity or go away for a couple of days, and we also know how excessive, forced overtime has created upheaval within families,” Taylor said. “These new 22.4 Combination Driver jobs will address these important issues while also creating a new career position with the same excellent Teamster-negotiated benefits and a family wage.”
Why is it necessary to create a permanently lower-paid class of full time driver that has no overtime protections?

Paying them less and saying “:censored2: your families. We created your positions so we could have time with our own” sure doesn’t seem like something that’d be good for Union cohesion in the future.
 

sailfish

Duke of Doúchebaggery
Everyone would be doing this whole site a favor if they just stopped responding to this guy's threads. It's really that simple.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
Everyone would be doing this whole site a favor if they just stopped responding to this guy's threads. It's really that simple.
I think that’s what he’s hoping for. Keep peddling false/misleading info and the lurkers will buy it if it stops being countered.
 

Wrong

The Great Deliverer
Striking now compared to 1997 would be disaterous. You must push your harsh feelings aside and focus on what's good about this contract. The committee addressed every single most important issue from every local. You can't ask for anything more from your negotiators fighting for you. You all asked for it and the IBT went out and made it happen and now your upset! WTH!?
Did they address that we didn’t want two tiered drivers and that this would be met with a strike? Oh what they didn’t? Could of sworn this was addressed multiple times at my local. That was in talks before negotiations even began and was a non starter for people at the meetings.

How about this very profitable company hire more full time drivers? That should solve this overtime problem and even cover the weekend work problem as well.
 
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