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<blockquote data-quote="The Milkman" data-source="post: 1331269" data-attributes="member: 22760"><p>I really doubt if they will be going out of business with the record profits yr after yr. The profits grow as all of you giveback. Voting YES out of fear will just water down your benefits in the future with more concessions. Been hearing UPS crying since 81 that they are not making enough profit, and amazingly after the contracts, they ride you more, Now Black Friday, OH What a Surprise, how could they do that?&nbsp; possibly buy out some companies, I believe (pretty sure)&nbsp; yrs ago after one contract the weight limit went from 75 to 150. Of course done after the contract was ratified. Again They have been changing since 1907 and will continue to make many billions in yrs to come....and a lot of that profit is generated by employess paying more for their benefits that have slowly went away..Hang around long enough and you will see..if haven&#039;t already. If UPS was losing money like the auto makers did then I could see givebacks and or renegotiating&nbsp; the contract to keep them afloat...but I can&#039;t recall that issue since 81......them losing any money..Do You?</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="The Milkman, post: 1331269, member: 22760"] I really doubt if they will be going out of business with the record profits yr after yr. The profits grow as all of you giveback. Voting YES out of fear will just water down your benefits in the future with more concessions. Been hearing UPS crying since 81 that they are not making enough profit, and amazingly after the contracts, they ride you more, Now Black Friday, OH What a Surprise, how could they do that? possibly buy out some companies, I believe (pretty sure) yrs ago after one contract the weight limit went from 75 to 150. Of course done after the contract was ratified. Again They have been changing since 1907 and will continue to make many billions in yrs to come....and a lot of that profit is generated by employess paying more for their benefits that have slowly went away..Hang around long enough and you will see..if haven't already. If UPS was losing money like the auto makers did then I could see givebacks and or renegotiating the contract to keep them afloat...but I can't recall that issue since 81......them losing any money..Do You? [/QUOTE]

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