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<blockquote data-quote="The Milkman" data-source="post: 1331649" data-attributes="member: 22760"><p>The problem was..they were not making profits year after year like UPS. They were selling a product, Ups as you know provides a great service, well at least they did years ago. Comparing GM to UPS is not even close. If you want to retire with some decent benefits then I suggest you think hard before you vote because someday like myself you will have a bunch of YES men/women deciding your future. The future you think you will have like I did 7 years ago untill this last mess of a contract that changed for the worse. Again I will say that if UPS continues (check the past 30yrs) to make record profits ( That is good) then at least LEAVE the hard earned benefits we earned and told you were going to have when you retire alone. Eventually when we turn 65 then they go away anyway. At least for most of us. What is wrong with that. I can only thank the YES men/women for costing me possibly 6-8k the next few yrs(and others more) I have to pay. Not the end of the world, But when do the givebacks end?? They end when the current Teamsters grow a set and stand tall united and maybe they will not buckle under pressure like they just did..</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="The Milkman, post: 1331649, member: 22760"] The problem was..they were not making profits year after year like UPS. They were selling a product, Ups as you know provides a great service, well at least they did years ago. Comparing GM to UPS is not even close. If you want to retire with some decent benefits then I suggest you think hard before you vote because someday like myself you will have a bunch of YES men/women deciding your future. The future you think you will have like I did 7 years ago untill this last mess of a contract that changed for the worse. Again I will say that if UPS continues (check the past 30yrs) to make record profits ( That is good) then at least LEAVE the hard earned benefits we earned and told you were going to have when you retire alone. Eventually when we turn 65 then they go away anyway. At least for most of us. What is wrong with that. I can only thank the YES men/women for costing me possibly 6-8k the next few yrs(and others more) I have to pay. Not the end of the world, But when do the givebacks end?? They end when the current Teamsters grow a set and stand tall united and maybe they will not buckle under pressure like they just did.. [/QUOTE]

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