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<blockquote data-quote="av8torntn" data-source="post: 574188" data-attributes="member: 8259"><p>Wkmac</p><p> </p><p>I do not think or state or post that this health care plan will be ruled unconstitutional. I do however feel that the constitution was intended to protect our freedoms from a big government not to protect us from ourselves. My question about what part of the constitution do you think applies was intended to bring up the common defense and general welfare part. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy2:" title="Happy2 :happy2:" data-shortname=":happy2:" /> It is amazing that it takes five pages of posts for someone to bring this up. </p><p> </p><p>I am no attorney. I did not want to work 14 hours a day seven days a week when I was younger now as a feeder driver and small business owner it seem that is exactly what I ended up with. </p><p> </p><p>I just want to clarify what the constitution really means. You guys are saying the when they put in common welfare that means that our government is obligated to insure, feed, cloth, buy cars for it's citizens. Common defense on the other hand means that you cannot raise an army to fight in a foreign country. Not really making sense to me so help a brother out. </p><p> </p><p>We have Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech and this applies to Congress but also state and local governments. Heck I've even been accused on here for violating someones free speech rights (diesel) for having a disagreement with them. On the other hand the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed doesn't apply to modern weapons because our founders could not have imagined how deadly they could become. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/please.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":please:" title="Please :please:" data-shortname=":please:" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Why can I not have an interpretation that says that the general welfare part protects me from an overly intrusive government? Why can't general welfare mean that I get to keep my money to provide for myself?</p><p> </p><p>Why is it an invasion of privacy for the government to listen to the sat phone conversation of Osama Bin laden but not an invasion of privacy to store all my medical records with the federal government. I do not think the constitution provides us with a guarantee to privacy but since most on here and some of the courts do. Why? <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rolleyes2:" title="Rolleyes :rolleyes2:" data-shortname=":rolleyes2:" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I feel you have falsely accused me of supporting the expansion of government under a republican. All I remember is that I opposed the expansion of Medicare, opposed the expansion of the Dept. of Education, opposed sending troops to the border, opposed the mandatory drug sentencing, and opposed government giving money to charities. I did however support the expansion of the military during a time of war as I feel the Constitution clearly gives the government that right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="av8torntn, post: 574188, member: 8259"] Wkmac I do not think or state or post that this health care plan will be ruled unconstitutional. I do however feel that the constitution was intended to protect our freedoms from a big government not to protect us from ourselves. My question about what part of the constitution do you think applies was intended to bring up the common defense and general welfare part. :happy2: It is amazing that it takes five pages of posts for someone to bring this up. I am no attorney. I did not want to work 14 hours a day seven days a week when I was younger now as a feeder driver and small business owner it seem that is exactly what I ended up with. I just want to clarify what the constitution really means. You guys are saying the when they put in common welfare that means that our government is obligated to insure, feed, cloth, buy cars for it's citizens. Common defense on the other hand means that you cannot raise an army to fight in a foreign country. Not really making sense to me so help a brother out. We have Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech and this applies to Congress but also state and local governments. Heck I've even been accused on here for violating someones free speech rights (diesel) for having a disagreement with them. On the other hand the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed doesn't apply to modern weapons because our founders could not have imagined how deadly they could become. :please: Why can I not have an interpretation that says that the general welfare part protects me from an overly intrusive government? Why can't general welfare mean that I get to keep my money to provide for myself? Why is it an invasion of privacy for the government to listen to the sat phone conversation of Osama Bin laden but not an invasion of privacy to store all my medical records with the federal government. I do not think the constitution provides us with a guarantee to privacy but since most on here and some of the courts do. Why? :rolleyes2: I feel you have falsely accused me of supporting the expansion of government under a republican. All I remember is that I opposed the expansion of Medicare, opposed the expansion of the Dept. of Education, opposed sending troops to the border, opposed the mandatory drug sentencing, and opposed government giving money to charities. I did however support the expansion of the military during a time of war as I feel the Constitution clearly gives the government that right. [/QUOTE]
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