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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 574239" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p><span style="color: blue">OK, first off, we have no Freedom of Speech here. NONE! Not me, not you, not Diesel! We voice our opinions here only at the pleasure and priviledge of the site owners and at any time they can revoke that priviledge either individually or they can close down and entire forum such as the Current Events for example and if any of us invoked the first amendment we'd be laughed out of the courts, especially if they actually read the absolute BS we all post here. I'm not familar with you having voilated Diesel's first amendment right and unless you work for gov't of in some gov't granted monopoly capacity, I don't see how you could have. Again, I'm not familar at all with the event of which you speak so there you go. As much as I've poked my finger at Diesel, I'm having a hard time understanding him even suggesting that but "it is what it is!"</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">In the organic Constitution, the only entity bound to respect free speech was the Congress and therefore extension Federal gov't. No State of local entity was so bound but you'd find the several States themselves having copied that language in the own State Constitutions. Were they bound by the US Cont. then why the need for local language. Those amendments didn't transfer down to the States until the 14th amendment came into play because the freed slaves found themselves trapped on an island with no standing. Our founding fathers negation to ignore the Declaration of Independence and declare slavery illegal from the get go came back to haunt their grand dream into a political nightmare for their pogeny. Damn them to hell for it too!</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">As to the weapons, agreed! No argument. If the same logic works for speech, religion, etc. it should work there as well and this provides a good entry point for the last section. However the 2nd amendment arguement is being killed in many respect by our own hand in defending the Federal State and it's standing empire army and police powers. I'll answer that next!</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 574239, member: 2189"] [COLOR=blue]OK, first off, we have no Freedom of Speech here. NONE! Not me, not you, not Diesel! We voice our opinions here only at the pleasure and priviledge of the site owners and at any time they can revoke that priviledge either individually or they can close down and entire forum such as the Current Events for example and if any of us invoked the first amendment we'd be laughed out of the courts, especially if they actually read the absolute BS we all post here. I'm not familar with you having voilated Diesel's first amendment right and unless you work for gov't of in some gov't granted monopoly capacity, I don't see how you could have. Again, I'm not familar at all with the event of which you speak so there you go. As much as I've poked my finger at Diesel, I'm having a hard time understanding him even suggesting that but "it is what it is!"[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]In the organic Constitution, the only entity bound to respect free speech was the Congress and therefore extension Federal gov't. No State of local entity was so bound but you'd find the several States themselves having copied that language in the own State Constitutions. Were they bound by the US Cont. then why the need for local language. Those amendments didn't transfer down to the States until the 14th amendment came into play because the freed slaves found themselves trapped on an island with no standing. Our founding fathers negation to ignore the Declaration of Independence and declare slavery illegal from the get go came back to haunt their grand dream into a political nightmare for their pogeny. Damn them to hell for it too![/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]As to the weapons, agreed! No argument. If the same logic works for speech, religion, etc. it should work there as well and this provides a good entry point for the last section. However the 2nd amendment arguement is being killed in many respect by our own hand in defending the Federal State and it's standing empire army and police powers. I'll answer that next![/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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