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<blockquote data-quote="tonyexpress" data-source="post: 587844" data-attributes="member: 1940"><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"><a href="http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/elder082009.php3" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #062f56">ObamaCare? Ask the British and Canadians</span></span></strong> </a></span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"><u>What about England?</u> </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civitas_(think_tank)" target="_blank">Civitas</a>, a nonpartisan British think tank, recently scolded the British National Health Service (NHS) for "putting the patient last." Why? Civitas blames the government-run health care system's monolithic nature, lack of competition, and the burdensome and wasteful regulation, redundancy, oversight and meddling by government — including some 69 public bodies besides the Department of Health, such as the Care Quality Commission and the Environment Agency. This means the NHS serves the bureaucrat, not the patient. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000"><u>What about our neighbor to the north, Canada?</u> </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">After all, then-presidential candidate Barack Obama said that if "starting from scratch," he'd emulate their "single-payer," government-run system. Tell that to the incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, the equivalent of the American Medical Association.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">"We all agree that the <em>system is imploding</em> (emphasis added). We all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize," said Dr. Anne Doig. "We know that there must be change," she continued. "We're all running flat-out. We're all just trying to stay ahead of the immediate day-to-day demands." She said the Canadian model has some "very good things," but "(Canadians) have to understand that the system that we have right now — if it keeps on going without change — is not sustainable." </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">What does the current president of the Canadian Medical Association suggest? <strong><span style="font-size: 12px">Competition.</span></strong></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Health care and insurance are not "rights." Freedom of speech is a right. A fair trial — in which one is judged by a jury of one's peers — is a right. Protection against government discrimination based on race or religion or against being victimized by unreasonable searches and seizures are rights. One is no more entitled to health care or insurance than one is to a Lexus or a mansion or courtside seats at a Los Angeles Lakers game. Desirable? Sure. A "right"? No. Yet unlike the Lexus, extending health care to the unfortunate is a moral imperative. That's the definition of charity. But it's not a constitutional right. </span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="color: #000000">Health care and insurance are commodities. Without government intrusion, excessive regulation and mandates, they would get cheaper and more affordable. Free market competition — the same system that gives us ever-cheaper flat-screen televisions and cell phones with more power and ever-expanding functions — remains the greatest wealth-producing system with the most widespread benefits known to humankind. It gives us cheaper and higher-quality elective surgeries, such as laser eye surgery, face-lifts, hair transplants and liposuction. Inexplicably, the President seems to understand this. He recently said, "UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. — It's the post office that's always having problems."!!?? <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tonyexpress, post: 587844, member: 1940"] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000][URL="http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/elder082009.php3"][B][SIZE=3][COLOR=#062f56]ObamaCare? Ask the British and Canadians[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [/URL][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000][U]What about England?[/U] [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civitas_(think_tank)"]Civitas[/URL], a nonpartisan British think tank, recently scolded the British National Health Service (NHS) for "putting the patient last." Why? Civitas blames the government-run health care system's monolithic nature, lack of competition, and the burdensome and wasteful regulation, redundancy, oversight and meddling by government — including some 69 public bodies besides the Department of Health, such as the Care Quality Commission and the Environment Agency. This means the NHS serves the bureaucrat, not the patient. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000][U]What about our neighbor to the north, Canada?[/U] [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]After all, then-presidential candidate Barack Obama said that if "starting from scratch," he'd emulate their "single-payer," government-run system. Tell that to the incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, the equivalent of the American Medical Association.[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]"We all agree that the [I]system is imploding[/I] (emphasis added). We all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize," said Dr. Anne Doig. "We know that there must be change," she continued. "We're all running flat-out. We're all just trying to stay ahead of the immediate day-to-day demands." She said the Canadian model has some "very good things," but "(Canadians) have to understand that the system that we have right now — if it keeps on going without change — is not sustainable." [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]What does the current president of the Canadian Medical Association suggest? [B][SIZE=3]Competition.[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Health care and insurance are not "rights." Freedom of speech is a right. A fair trial — in which one is judged by a jury of one's peers — is a right. Protection against government discrimination based on race or religion or against being victimized by unreasonable searches and seizures are rights. One is no more entitled to health care or insurance than one is to a Lexus or a mansion or courtside seats at a Los Angeles Lakers game. Desirable? Sure. A "right"? No. Yet unlike the Lexus, extending health care to the unfortunate is a moral imperative. That's the definition of charity. But it's not a constitutional right. [/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Health care and insurance are commodities. Without government intrusion, excessive regulation and mandates, they would get cheaper and more affordable. Free market competition — the same system that gives us ever-cheaper flat-screen televisions and cell phones with more power and ever-expanding functions — remains the greatest wealth-producing system with the most widespread benefits known to humankind. It gives us cheaper and higher-quality elective surgeries, such as laser eye surgery, face-lifts, hair transplants and liposuction. Inexplicably, the President seems to understand this. He recently said, "UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. — It's the post office that's always having problems."!!?? :peaceful:[/COLOR][/FONT] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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