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<blockquote data-quote="island1fox" data-source="post: 616462" data-attributes="member: 4816"><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/dissapointed.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":dissapointed:" title="Disappointed&nbsp; &nbsp; :dissapointed:" data-shortname=":dissapointed:" />I wonder how many UPSers and Teamsters have figured out that the Government will deem their present health care as &quot;cadillac&quot;This will mean that the premiums will be &quot;taxed&quot; --the cost will skyrocket --first to insurance company --next to company ---will be passed down to individual with either higher co-pays or less coverage. Of course Obama is not taxing you directly -----but you will get the full consequence of the tax.Many companies including UPS -may decide that this is just too expensive.Pay the fee or fine {another tax} and let us fall into a public option or coop ?? But of course he will still claim that you can keep your present coverage and doctor -----but he does not say it will be your choice --it will be the employers----Just another way to get total control. We will fall into &quot;Klein World&quot; convincing ourselves how good the government is doing with healthcare as it goes the way of the post office---so highly efficient !!!!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/anxious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":anxious:" title="Anxious&nbsp; &nbsp; :anxious:" data-shortname=":anxious:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="island1fox, post: 616462, member: 4816"] :dissapointed:I wonder how many UPSers and Teamsters have figured out that the Government will deem their present health care as "cadillac" This will mean that the premiums will be "taxed" --the cost will skyrocket --first to insurance company --next to company ---will be passed down to individual with either higher co-pays or less coverage. Of course Obama is not taxing you directly -----but you will get the full consequence of the tax. Many companies including UPS -may decide that this is just too expensive. Pay the fee or fine {another tax} and let us fall into a public option or coop ?? But of course he will still claim that you can keep your present coverage and doctor -----but he does not say it will be your choice --it will be the employers----Just another way to get total control. We will fall into "Klein World" convincing ourselves how good the government is doing with healthcare as it goes the way of the post office---so highly efficient !!!!:anxious: [/QUOTE]

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