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<blockquote data-quote="klein" data-source="post: 703828" data-attributes="member: 23950"><p>How do you compare healthcare with freedom ?</p><p>Did you have the freedom to chose your own health insurance, or the freedom to chose none at all, and take the money instead ?</p><p>Who really pays for your health beenies ? Not you, not UPS, but in the end , every single consumer.</p><p>Did these end consumers have the freedom to say no, we don't want to support your healthcare ?</p><p> </p><p>They only freedom you have, that we don't, is the freedom to carry guns.</p><p>You don't have nationwide freedom to same sex marriages.</p><p>Nor abortions (it's her body, not the governments ) !!!</p><p>Nor can you smoke weed, without the chance going to jail.</p><p>You don't have the freedom to smoke a cuban cigar, or even go there.</p><p>You don't have the freedom to switch jobs, without some healthcare changes (either none, or a waiting period to get enrolled again).</p><p>Or did you know, you don't actually need a passport to enter Canada as an American, but you need one to re-enter the USA (to get back into your home country).</p><p>(Canadians can't enter the US, without a passport, but we can re-enter without one). (last 2 items, provided you drive , since now all international flights require a passport for security reasons).</p><p> </p><p>Thats just a few I can think of. There are probably many more. Like being able to drink and purchase alcohol as an adult (which is 18 years of age, here and in the US)</p><p> </p><p>So, again, what is your freedom point here ?????</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klein, post: 703828, member: 23950"] How do you compare healthcare with freedom ? Did you have the freedom to chose your own health insurance, or the freedom to chose none at all, and take the money instead ? Who really pays for your health beenies ? Not you, not UPS, but in the end , every single consumer. Did these end consumers have the freedom to say no, we don't want to support your healthcare ? They only freedom you have, that we don't, is the freedom to carry guns. You don't have nationwide freedom to same sex marriages. Nor abortions (it's her body, not the governments ) !!! Nor can you smoke weed, without the chance going to jail. You don't have the freedom to smoke a cuban cigar, or even go there. You don't have the freedom to switch jobs, without some healthcare changes (either none, or a waiting period to get enrolled again). Or did you know, you don't actually need a passport to enter Canada as an American, but you need one to re-enter the USA (to get back into your home country). (Canadians can't enter the US, without a passport, but we can re-enter without one). (last 2 items, provided you drive , since now all international flights require a passport for security reasons). Thats just a few I can think of. There are probably many more. Like being able to drink and purchase alcohol as an adult (which is 18 years of age, here and in the US) So, again, what is your freedom point here ????? [/QUOTE]
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