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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1162797" data-attributes="member: 2189">I posted the documentary &quot;Taken for a Ride&quot; before (YouTube version) so I won&#039;t do it again (<a href="http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/taken_for_a_ride_1996/" target="_blank">here&#039;s the link</a>) but no argument from me and the film fully supports your assertion of big industry pulling the levers as do I.&nbsp; We don&#039;t have cars because of real market choices or what I would say as a result of real free market actions but rather because of manipulation of public policy and public thought from an apparatus that industry and monopoly capital built in the first place.&nbsp; You could argue the real free market choices of the consumer were in fact not abandoned as much as crushed by a type conspiracy of both industry and state.They built an economic/industrial model for themselves and their interest of which both state and industry benefited and consumers found themselves the captives. The myth of &quot;for the people&quot; is just that, myth!&nbsp; Not unlike the original enclosure movement was used to herd people in order to benefit the centralization of wealth and the industrial revolution by a combination of State and private privilege.&nbsp;&nbsp; A new expression of feudalism was created in the American 20th century and the car along with the centralization of transportation via cartel was/is a major component of that model.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1162797, member: 2189"] I posted the documentary "Taken for a Ride" before (YouTube version) so I won't do it again ([URL="http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/taken_for_a_ride_1996/"][COLOR=#ff0000]here's the link[/COLOR][/URL]) but no argument from me and the film fully supports your assertion of big industry pulling the levers as do I. We don't have cars because of real market choices or what I would say as a result of real free market actions but rather because of manipulation of public policy and public thought from an apparatus that industry and monopoly capital built in the first place. You could argue the real free market choices of the consumer were in fact not abandoned as much as crushed by a type conspiracy of both industry and state. They built an economic/industrial model for themselves and their interest of which both state and industry benefited and consumers found themselves the captives. The myth of "for the people" is just that, myth! Not unlike the original enclosure movement was used to herd people in order to benefit the centralization of wealth and the industrial revolution by a combination of State and private privilege. A new expression of feudalism was created in the American 20th century and the car along with the centralization of transportation via cartel was/is a major component of that model. [/QUOTE]

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