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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 823395" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>We'll just agree to disagree as it relates to the purpose and role of the state but moreso from my POV that there is no divine or undivine right for any man to rule over another in such fashion. And to confiscate at the point of a gun someone's property (you can gloss it by using the benign fiction taxation) to give to others on the belief that this benefits the larger, greater good is morally and ethically wrong on all counts. I'm certain the slave owners back in the day made all kinds of grand excuses of the greater good to maintain slavery and strip the slave of his labor all for that greater good too!</p><p> </p><p>It's wrong to con and exploit the poor not because they are poor but because all manner of con and exploitation are wrong. Wealth transfer to the rich because of bad behavior and poor choices doesn't mean those who defend it are not at the heart, theives and immoral themselves. Yep, I stand by that statement too!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 823395, member: 2189"] We'll just agree to disagree as it relates to the purpose and role of the state but moreso from my POV that there is no divine or undivine right for any man to rule over another in such fashion. And to confiscate at the point of a gun someone's property (you can gloss it by using the benign fiction taxation) to give to others on the belief that this benefits the larger, greater good is morally and ethically wrong on all counts. I'm certain the slave owners back in the day made all kinds of grand excuses of the greater good to maintain slavery and strip the slave of his labor all for that greater good too! It's wrong to con and exploit the poor not because they are poor but because all manner of con and exploitation are wrong. Wealth transfer to the rich because of bad behavior and poor choices doesn't mean those who defend it are not at the heart, theives and immoral themselves. Yep, I stand by that statement too! [/QUOTE]
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