Guaranteed 8

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 1989NW, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. CitizenTruth

    CitizenTruth Member

    Are you a book driver?
    If your a book driver you DO NOT need to call in anywhere to see if your working you show up and they have to find work for you, and yes your guaranteed 8 if nobody went home they would have to then post a layoff list with at least 24 hours notice noo way a book driver needs to call in
  2. MangoMango

    MangoMango Member

    You have to work in the hub for 8 hours.
  3. 1989NW

    1989NW Member

    Book driver? I am a FT cover driver. I do not have a bid route.
  4. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Never fails.
  5. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    I do more routes in my first 30 days than 10 drivers above me. and after a year, the most in the center.
  6. BlackCat

    BlackCat Active Member


    Your first 30 days would be on a training route.
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  7. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    I move around a lot. I’ve had 6 or 7 - 30 days.
  8. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall donut!!!

    I made seniority 30 days after I went full time... that’s why tcd’s are a scam...
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Then you are guaranteed to work every day and are entitled to the daily guarantee.
  10. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    No, layoffs are done from the bottom of the seniority list. Work is only dependent on volume. ONLY IF YOU ARE WORKING ARE YOU GUARANTEED 8 HOURS.
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    FT cover drivers are guaranteed to work every day.
  12. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    Not here. Many places do not use TCD. I have been been full time for 22 years. Have been laid off twice this year.
  13. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    That's going to depend on your supplement.

    In the Central Region, the top 90% are guaranteed 40 hours for the week.

    Bid or cover driver.... it doesn't matter. The 10% drivers are only guaranteed 8 hours

    if put to work. Any driver with a posted start time (and not put to work) is

    entitled to 6 hours of show-up pay. And.... there is no On-Call status.

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  14. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    Much to the chagrin of every cookie cutter labor manager...
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  15. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Yet the Company schedules the bottom 10% (and more) as "On-Call" weekly.

    Sad thing is, due to the advent of TeamCare and it's weekly contribution requirements, the premise of "On-Call" has never had more traction, nor has the Company had more leverage in it's practice.

    What's the alternative, unemployment and COBRA, since the Company maintains the position that we can't bump into the sorts due to our Local Seniority Application?
    We still have dozens of drivers laid off daily, many only working on Saturdays.

    Some of my Local Officials have actually told us "that it's the best thing for all involved".

    Bill L would be rolling over in....wherever he is....if he knew this was becoming an accepted practice in our state.

  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    I was going to say center manager....
  17. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    That's insane. Do you have a rider that replaces CRT Art 3, Sec 6?
  18. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    That's the Company's position (I don't agree), while the Local does nothing to fight it.

    The Local has maintained that our Local Seniority Application will not be reopened during this contact negotiation cycle.
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    My first reaction, would be to just lay them off so they could bump inside.

    I've seen Local Seniority language, work in favor of the members.

    But, I respect Local autonomy.

  20. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    That SUCKS! We encourage every non-scheduled (no F'n on-call BS recognised) FT to bump inside immediately. Often work is found in the FT ranks the following week especially if feeder driver are bumping in.