Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Bubblehead, Jul 18, 2018.

  1. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    What are the chances that half the membership votes on this proposed contract....

    ....and if the turnout is less than 50%, will the IBT have the stones to eventually enact this language in the IBT Constitution?

    Article 12 - Section 2(d) reads:

    "Results of ratification or rejection
    votes with respect to master agreements shall be determined
    by all involved voting members on a cumulative
    basis of all votes cast as follows:

    (1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote
    cast valid ballots then a cumulative majority of
    those voting in favor of the final offer shall result
    in acceptance of such offer; and a cumulative majority
    of those voting against acceptance of the final
    offer shall authorize a strike without any additional
    vote being necessary for such strike
    authorization. A tie vote shall be resolved as provided
    in Section 1(b)(l) of this Article.

    (2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
    ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting
    shall be required to reject such final offer and to
    authorize a strike. The failure of such membership
    to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as
    herein provided shall require the negotiating committee
    to accept such final offer or such additional
    provisions as can be negotiated by it."

    Buckle up people, I predict that we are in for a wild ride.
  2. UnconTROLLed

    UnconTROLLed perfection

    of course the IBT is going to ram through the deal
  3. DOK

    DOK Well-Known Member

    What was the voter participation for the last few contract, real numbers not guesses?
  4. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    I think last contract was somewhere around 35%???
  5. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Yes I could see them doing it. They know we won't decertify and they also know that they're gone after this election. Nothing to lose for them.
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  6. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    You know I heard those exact words a couple hours ago.
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  7. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Maybe it was me. :)
  8. If Hall plans to run I believe he has a lot to lose if this goes down like that.
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  9. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    It does say on the final offer. Got a ways to go for that, right?
  10. just chillin'

    just chillin' Rest in peace wooba

    this is why i would like to know the real total number of strike authorization votes. gives a prediction of possible voter turnout.
  11. Boxslinger11

    Boxslinger11 Next gen teamster

    Let the IBT play their cards im very interested to see how this plays out as a current part timer as it will decide how my future goes with this company
  12. cornfed

    cornfed Member

    Vote yes.
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  13. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    If they are dumb enough to force the contract it's gonna get interesting.
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  14. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut Proud Deplorable

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  15. DirtySouth

    DirtySouth Active Member

    Enough people on the GEB might want to be able to run again. Remember the ABF vote.
  16. no_map_needed

    no_map_needed Knowledge is key, Experience is power.

    It happened the last contract.
  17. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    I could see at least 50% voting this contract. I could see the companies continuous harassment of employees having a big role in members giving them a big :censored2: by voting.
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  18. Time for change

    Time for change Active Member

    Well in that case I bet the company/IBT doesn’t push the get out to vote campaign.
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    They would have to.

    You just can't pick and choose what parts of the IBT Constitution to apply.

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  20. iruhnman630

    iruhnman630 Well-Known Member

    I believe we will reach the 2/3rd no vote.
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