Half....

[Bubblehead]

What are the chances that half the membership votes on this proposed contract....

....and if the turnout is less than 50%, will the IBT have the stones to eventually enact this language in the IBT Constitution?

Article 12 - Section 2(d) reads:

"Results of ratification or rejection
votes with respect to master agreements shall be determined
by all involved voting members on a cumulative
basis of all votes cast as follows:

(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote
cast valid ballots then a cumulative majority of
those voting in favor of the final offer shall result
in acceptance of such offer; and a cumulative majority
of those voting against acceptance of the final
offer shall authorize a strike without any additional
vote being necessary for such strike
authorization. A tie vote shall be resolved as provided
in Section 1(b)(l) of this Article.

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting
shall be required to reject such final offer and to
authorize a strike. The failure of such membership
to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as
herein provided shall require the negotiating committee
to accept such final offer or such additional
provisions as can be negotiated by it."

Buckle up people, I predict that we are in for a wild ride.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

of course the IBT is going to ram through the deal

 

[DOK]

What was the voter participation for the last few contract, real numbers not guesses?

 

[Rack em]

What was the voter participation for the last few contract, real numbers not guesses?

I think last contract was somewhere around 35%???

 

[542thruNthru]

What are the chances that half the membership votes on this proposed contract....

....and if the turnout is less than 50%, will the IBT have the stones to eventually enact this language in the IBT Constitution?

Article 12 - Section 2(d) reads:

"Results of ratification or rejection
votes with respect to master agreements shall be determined
by all involved voting members on a cumulative
basis of all votes cast as follows:

(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote
cast valid ballots then a cumulative majority of
those voting in favor of the final offer shall result
in acceptance of such offer; and a cumulative majority
of those voting against acceptance of the final
offer shall authorize a strike without any additional
vote being necessary for such strike
authorization. A tie vote shall be resolved as provided
in Section 1(b)(l) of this Article.

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting
shall be required to reject such final offer and to
authorize a strike. The failure of such membership
to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as
herein provided shall require the negotiating committee
to accept such final offer or such additional
provisions as can be negotiated by it."

Buckle up people, I predict that we are in for a wild ride.

Yes I could see them doing it. They know we won't decertify and they also know that they're gone after this election. Nothing to lose for them.

 

[Inthegame]

Yes I could see them doing it. They know we won't decertify and they also know that they're gone after this election. Nothing to lose for them.

You know I heard those exact words a couple hours ago.

 

[542thruNthru]

You know I heard those exact words a couple hours ago.

Maybe it was me.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Yes I could see them doing it. They know we won't decertify and they also know that they're gone after this election. Nothing to lose for them.

If Hall plans to run I believe he has a lot to lose if this goes down like that.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

It does say on the final offer. Got a ways to go for that, right?

 

[just chillin']

this is why i would like to know the real total number of strike authorization votes. gives a prediction of possible voter turnout.

 

[Boxslinger11]

Let the IBT play their cards im very interested to see how this plays out as a current part timer as it will decide how my future goes with this company

 

[cornfed]

Vote yes.

 

[Brownslave688]

What are the chances that half the membership votes on this proposed contract....

....and if the turnout is less than 50%, will the IBT have the stones to eventually enact this language in the IBT Constitution?

Article 12 - Section 2(d) reads:

"Results of ratification or rejection
votes with respect to master agreements shall be determined
by all involved voting members on a cumulative
basis of all votes cast as follows:

(1) If at least one half of the members eligible to vote
cast valid ballots then a cumulative majority of
those voting in favor of the final offer shall result
in acceptance of such offer; and a cumulative majority
of those voting against acceptance of the final
offer shall authorize a strike without any additional
vote being necessary for such strike
authorization. A tie vote shall be resolved as provided
in Section 1(b)(l) of this Article.

(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid
ballots, then a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting
shall be required to reject such final offer and to
authorize a strike. The failure of such membership
to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as
herein provided shall require the negotiating committee
to accept such final offer or such additional
provisions as can be negotiated by it."

Buckle up people, I predict that we are in for a wild ride.

If they are dumb enough to force the contract it's gonna get interesting.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Vote yes.

 

[DirtySouth]

Yes I could see them doing it. They know we won't decertify and they also know that they're gone after this election. Nothing to lose for them.

Enough people on the GEB might want to be able to run again. Remember the ABF vote.

 

[no_map_needed]

It happened the last contract.

 

[MenInBrown]

I could see at least 50% voting this contract. I could see the companies continuous harassment of employees having a big role in members giving them a big by voting.

 

[Time for change]

Well in that case I bet the company/IBT doesn’t push the get out to vote campaign.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

What are the chances that half the membership votes on this proposed contract and if the turnout is less than 50%, will the IBT have the stones to eventually enact this language in the IBT Constitution?

They would have to.

You just can't pick and choose what parts of the IBT Constitution to apply.



-Bug-

 

[iruhnman630]

I believe we will reach the 2/3rd no vote.