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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 293589" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>While on a related subject, I just read this.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt312.html" target="_blank">http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt312.html</a></p><p> </p><p>As I read this and I considered the current situation of not only our own economic market but the global market as well which was built mostly off the American Dollar model and the fact that the Fed. lowered rates by .75 yesterday in an emergency action. Word is in the normal scheduled meeting next month that the rate will drop again by a 1/4 of a point. Not sure who it was here that rang the inflation bell about a Fed. action in response to the current situation but I'm in agreement with them. In fact, I'd say we are in a lot worse shape than we'd like to admit or rather the democrats and republicans want you to realize.</p><p> </p><p>Looking out across the span of history and then looking back at our time I wonder if the facts will read something like this.</p><p> </p><p>A rag tag nomadic band of religious fantics committed numerous terrorist acts upon the great Lady of Liberty. They breeched the unforbidden by flying 3 planes into carefully targeted building within her homeland itself. Lady Liberty set her great strength into motion and it was one unmatched in that time nor across the pages of history. No civilization in the history of man could unleash such utter distruction upon an enemy and no one stood a chance going toe to toe. The rag tag band were also well educated even in the principles of the Great Lady and one thing they understood was economics and they also unstood the real weakness of the Lady was her pursue. This rag tag band whether planned and foreseen or by happen stance created the very situation whereas to cause the great Lady to react in such a way as to cause her to economically consume herself and thereby loose her strength and might to wage her own defense, even upon her own home soil. </p><p> </p><p>A once great Satan of the north said of the Lady, "We will destroy you from within!" That great Satan consumed himself and is no more because a leader of the Lady caused them to spend themselves into bankruptcy in the late 20th century and the rag tag band having learned that by purpose or accident applied the same principle with false fears, ghosts and shadows exactly as the Lady's great leader had done. At the time it was called Star Wars and involved the militarization of space above the earth. </p><p> </p><p>As the Great Lady entered the 21st century her economic house had become shakey and the strike at her heart began a cascade effect with some internal manipulation and the Great Lady fell from power. Her ability to stand in her own defense was lost as her consorts who were elected to protect her had so eaten of her foundation of wealth to fill their own pockets and thus with nothing to hold her up, she fell from the heavens of power as the Great King of Babylon had done before her and so had the mighty Rome to a rag tag barbarian horde from the northern forests.</p><p> </p><p>Is that out story in the future? Don't know and I hope not but I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy either. </p><p> </p><p>Many a society has fallen to warfare of arms but the great empires fall as a result of economics that have them so weak that a band of goths and visogoths then overrun it. Will history show we fell from the heavens as we consumed ourselves chasing a rag tag band of terrorists?</p><p> </p><p>It's one thing to hire someone to wash a soldiers uniform but it's another to charge the army $100 per uniform washed. It's one thing to have someone present to help soldiers sign in to use computers to email home but it's another thing to pay that person a 6 figure salary. It's one thing to provide transportation to private employees of contractors but it's another thing to provide an almost custom luxury SUV that is leased and will cost the US taxpayer $200k plus each and they still get the vehicle back to the leaseholder at the end. It'd be cheaper to buy one here in the US outright, ship it over and give the employee the vehicle free and clear. Remember $1000 toilet seats and $700 hammers?</p><p> </p><p>IMHO, this has nothing whatsoever to do with if we should or should not be in Iraq but rather whether or not the US taxpayer is being ripped off knowingly by politically well connected contractors and thus adding to the economic bleeding that has our gov't borrowing vast amounts of money and economically enslaving our children and grandchildren and where does the gov't go when the tax dollars aren't there for Social Security and Medi-care that has been promised to millions of Americans. One of the first orders of conservatism is fiscal responsibility and IMHO that fact is totally lost on the folks who call themselves conservative today. Just look at what was done by the party who calls itself the party of conservatism? No wonder Reagan democrats and Reagan independents are staying home.</p><p> </p><p>At what point does the pressures become so great that taxes are needed and then at what rate? "I never raised taxes" the politician sez but he set the table for the next generation to come to be forced into that situation so in my book, he did raise taxes but it's either me in my older years on fixed income or my children who will be enslaved with that burden. How much of my future 401k will the gov't demand in taxes when I'll need that money the most? </p><p> </p><p>And also they have our gov't who has borrowed so much from our own resources that private companies who need cash are having to seek non-American sources of finance and thus you folks who so dislike and distrust the foreigner will have them owning the very companies you do business with daily. We already finance the very people you say are out to defeat us as we pay ransom fees for their oil so how long before they buy up our farmland and grocery stores for pennies on the dollar at bankruptcy sales and we then pay ransom for our food? The Chinese makes all our clothes! Not much else left is there?</p><p> </p><p>Waging war with economics is far better than weapons because the rebuilding process is a matter of title change and some bookkeeping details. Armed warfare involves a massive cleanup process and several years before a return on investment. You know, like Iraq's oil was suppose to pay for all of this but it just never happened now has it? I guess Bush slept through the part in class on return on investment and how to quickly get it.</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p> </p><p>JMHO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 293589, member: 2189"] While on a related subject, I just read this. [URL]http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt312.html[/URL] As I read this and I considered the current situation of not only our own economic market but the global market as well which was built mostly off the American Dollar model and the fact that the Fed. lowered rates by .75 yesterday in an emergency action. Word is in the normal scheduled meeting next month that the rate will drop again by a 1/4 of a point. Not sure who it was here that rang the inflation bell about a Fed. action in response to the current situation but I'm in agreement with them. In fact, I'd say we are in a lot worse shape than we'd like to admit or rather the democrats and republicans want you to realize. Looking out across the span of history and then looking back at our time I wonder if the facts will read something like this. A rag tag nomadic band of religious fantics committed numerous terrorist acts upon the great Lady of Liberty. They breeched the unforbidden by flying 3 planes into carefully targeted building within her homeland itself. Lady Liberty set her great strength into motion and it was one unmatched in that time nor across the pages of history. No civilization in the history of man could unleash such utter distruction upon an enemy and no one stood a chance going toe to toe. The rag tag band were also well educated even in the principles of the Great Lady and one thing they understood was economics and they also unstood the real weakness of the Lady was her pursue. This rag tag band whether planned and foreseen or by happen stance created the very situation whereas to cause the great Lady to react in such a way as to cause her to economically consume herself and thereby loose her strength and might to wage her own defense, even upon her own home soil. A once great Satan of the north said of the Lady, "We will destroy you from within!" That great Satan consumed himself and is no more because a leader of the Lady caused them to spend themselves into bankruptcy in the late 20th century and the rag tag band having learned that by purpose or accident applied the same principle with false fears, ghosts and shadows exactly as the Lady's great leader had done. At the time it was called Star Wars and involved the militarization of space above the earth. As the Great Lady entered the 21st century her economic house had become shakey and the strike at her heart began a cascade effect with some internal manipulation and the Great Lady fell from power. Her ability to stand in her own defense was lost as her consorts who were elected to protect her had so eaten of her foundation of wealth to fill their own pockets and thus with nothing to hold her up, she fell from the heavens of power as the Great King of Babylon had done before her and so had the mighty Rome to a rag tag barbarian horde from the northern forests. Is that out story in the future? Don't know and I hope not but I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy either. Many a society has fallen to warfare of arms but the great empires fall as a result of economics that have them so weak that a band of goths and visogoths then overrun it. Will history show we fell from the heavens as we consumed ourselves chasing a rag tag band of terrorists? It's one thing to hire someone to wash a soldiers uniform but it's another to charge the army $100 per uniform washed. It's one thing to have someone present to help soldiers sign in to use computers to email home but it's another thing to pay that person a 6 figure salary. It's one thing to provide transportation to private employees of contractors but it's another thing to provide an almost custom luxury SUV that is leased and will cost the US taxpayer $200k plus each and they still get the vehicle back to the leaseholder at the end. It'd be cheaper to buy one here in the US outright, ship it over and give the employee the vehicle free and clear. Remember $1000 toilet seats and $700 hammers? IMHO, this has nothing whatsoever to do with if we should or should not be in Iraq but rather whether or not the US taxpayer is being ripped off knowingly by politically well connected contractors and thus adding to the economic bleeding that has our gov't borrowing vast amounts of money and economically enslaving our children and grandchildren and where does the gov't go when the tax dollars aren't there for Social Security and Medi-care that has been promised to millions of Americans. One of the first orders of conservatism is fiscal responsibility and IMHO that fact is totally lost on the folks who call themselves conservative today. Just look at what was done by the party who calls itself the party of conservatism? No wonder Reagan democrats and Reagan independents are staying home. At what point does the pressures become so great that taxes are needed and then at what rate? "I never raised taxes" the politician sez but he set the table for the next generation to come to be forced into that situation so in my book, he did raise taxes but it's either me in my older years on fixed income or my children who will be enslaved with that burden. How much of my future 401k will the gov't demand in taxes when I'll need that money the most? And also they have our gov't who has borrowed so much from our own resources that private companies who need cash are having to seek non-American sources of finance and thus you folks who so dislike and distrust the foreigner will have them owning the very companies you do business with daily. We already finance the very people you say are out to defeat us as we pay ransom fees for their oil so how long before they buy up our farmland and grocery stores for pennies on the dollar at bankruptcy sales and we then pay ransom for our food? The Chinese makes all our clothes! Not much else left is there? Waging war with economics is far better than weapons because the rebuilding process is a matter of title change and some bookkeeping details. Armed warfare involves a massive cleanup process and several years before a return on investment. You know, like Iraq's oil was suppose to pay for all of this but it just never happened now has it? I guess Bush slept through the part in class on return on investment and how to quickly get it. :happy-very: JMHO [/QUOTE]
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