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<blockquote data-quote="bacha29" data-source="post: 2262199" data-attributes="member: 58386"><p>I never said anything about collecting S. S. and living off shore. However I'm staying here and I will continue to pay into the system for as long as I can to help keep solvent a program whose future you are always lamenting about as well as the impact it has on the deficit. Just what are you going to do to besides living out of country bitching about the situation but collecting benefits many times greater than what you payed in? Contrary to your long standing belief you are not the only person paying into the system while everybody has lived their whole lives on relief. Among the people who also pay in is the rich Texas oilman's minimum wage gardener. It includes the single mother working 3 minimum wage jobs while her " breed em'and leave em" cowboy ex husband hasn't paid a dime in child support in years. Now if you were to take away EIC, Medicaid, Food Stamps, rent rebates, AFDC reduced school lunches etc. would that Texas oilman raise his gardener's wages to offset the loss of those benefits. Hell no.! Yes, there are abuses and people gaming the system and in my locale there are regular news reports about people being prosecuted for those offenses and the penalties are steep. There is absolutely no question that your contempt for people who you think are cheating is found in your unhappy memories of your childhood made much worse than they needed to be by having a mother that was too damn proud and too damn stubborn to put you and your siblings well being foremost and accept the help that was designed to make life better for the innocent and the powerless.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bacha29, post: 2262199, member: 58386"] I never said anything about collecting S. S. and living off shore. However I'm staying here and I will continue to pay into the system for as long as I can to help keep solvent a program whose future you are always lamenting about as well as the impact it has on the deficit. Just what are you going to do to besides living out of country bitching about the situation but collecting benefits many times greater than what you payed in? Contrary to your long standing belief you are not the only person paying into the system while everybody has lived their whole lives on relief. Among the people who also pay in is the rich Texas oilman's minimum wage gardener. It includes the single mother working 3 minimum wage jobs while her " breed em'and leave em" cowboy ex husband hasn't paid a dime in child support in years. Now if you were to take away EIC, Medicaid, Food Stamps, rent rebates, AFDC reduced school lunches etc. would that Texas oilman raise his gardener's wages to offset the loss of those benefits. Hell no.! Yes, there are abuses and people gaming the system and in my locale there are regular news reports about people being prosecuted for those offenses and the penalties are steep. There is absolutely no question that your contempt for people who you think are cheating is found in your unhappy memories of your childhood made much worse than they needed to be by having a mother that was too damn proud and too damn stubborn to put you and your siblings well being foremost and accept the help that was designed to make life better for the innocent and the powerless. [/QUOTE]
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