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Has anyone been pulled into their center manager's office to recite the DOK question?
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<blockquote data-quote="UPS Lifer" data-source="post: 292403" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p>Griff, </p><p></p><p>I have been on both sides of the fence. At one point in my driving career, I had a mgmt team I did not trust and I was pro-union and scrapped all ideas of going into mgmt. That team left and I was fortunate enough to get a manager that cared about people. The walls of distrust came down. </p><p></p><p>Why do I care? Some would say that you are a lost cause, you will never change. I don't believe that. HOWEVER, if you continue thinking that you are untouchable you will eventually make enough mistakes to get yourself fired. All it takes is a mgmt person that can prove you are the MHN driver in a certain category and then puts the scope on you and lock & load. A savvy manager can get you. Forget about standards...are your methods one of the best in your center? If not, watch out. Someone will figure it out. I watched a manager lock and load on a driver that was psychologically impaired ...(literally he was crazy!) (I have first hand knowledge). He told me that helicopters and "G-men" were following him! It took 5 terminations but the last one stuck! </p><p>WHY WOULD YOU RISK THAT ON YOURSELF??? If what you say is true, there will be a shift in your center and building and things will change. </p><p></p><p>Warning letters (generally) cannot be grieved. If the warning leads to additional discipline then you can address it. The only way it comes out of your file is after nine months. You can ask to have it purged. In the mean time, you can actually be discharged if you have a warning in place. Again, why do you want to put yourself through that? Granted, you may win the case but your life has been interrupted and you can't get that time back. </p><p></p><p>You have to ask yourself....Is UPS a career for you or are you just putting in the time until something else comes along?</p><p></p><p>I may not have any impact on you but down the road maybe another 10 years from now (maybe sooner!), you will start to see the light. <strong>Wisdom comes with time and experience.</strong> </p><p></p><p>When you question whether your actions are right or wrong, do this little test... think of the person or persons whose opinion and respect matters to you above all (could be wife, mother, father etc.); think of that person standing right along side of you and how they would feel about your actions. I am sure we will chat some more. I am like you in that I will keep trying to make an impact!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UPS Lifer, post: 292403, member: 9789"] Griff, I have been on both sides of the fence. At one point in my driving career, I had a mgmt team I did not trust and I was pro-union and scrapped all ideas of going into mgmt. That team left and I was fortunate enough to get a manager that cared about people. The walls of distrust came down. Why do I care? Some would say that you are a lost cause, you will never change. I don't believe that. HOWEVER, if you continue thinking that you are untouchable you will eventually make enough mistakes to get yourself fired. All it takes is a mgmt person that can prove you are the MHN driver in a certain category and then puts the scope on you and lock & load. A savvy manager can get you. Forget about standards...are your methods one of the best in your center? If not, watch out. Someone will figure it out. I watched a manager lock and load on a driver that was psychologically impaired ...(literally he was crazy!) (I have first hand knowledge). He told me that helicopters and "G-men" were following him! It took 5 terminations but the last one stuck! WHY WOULD YOU RISK THAT ON YOURSELF??? If what you say is true, there will be a shift in your center and building and things will change. Warning letters (generally) cannot be grieved. If the warning leads to additional discipline then you can address it. The only way it comes out of your file is after nine months. You can ask to have it purged. In the mean time, you can actually be discharged if you have a warning in place. Again, why do you want to put yourself through that? Granted, you may win the case but your life has been interrupted and you can't get that time back. You have to ask yourself....Is UPS a career for you or are you just putting in the time until something else comes along? I may not have any impact on you but down the road maybe another 10 years from now (maybe sooner!), you will start to see the light. [B]Wisdom comes with time and experience.[/B] When you question whether your actions are right or wrong, do this little test... think of the person or persons whose opinion and respect matters to you above all (could be wife, mother, father etc.); think of that person standing right along side of you and how they would feel about your actions. I am sure we will chat some more. I am like you in that I will keep trying to make an impact!!! [/QUOTE]
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