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<blockquote data-quote="av8torntn" data-source="post: 693861" data-attributes="member: 8259"><p>I do why?</p><p> </p><p>It has been used to pass budget related items in the past by both parties. There was a threat to use it to allow drilling in the national wildlife refuge that did not come to pass. I am pretty sure they cannot use it to pass that silly mandate to force people to buy insurance. From my understanding it would gut a couple other provisions the dims consider mandatory for their plan to be successful as well that are non tax or spending items. This could very well be a check mate type move for the repubs. They will be able to campaign in the mid term races on a repeal of this unpopular spending as they would then only need the 51 votes as well attached to the next budget. Since the actual programs do not start for ten years a veto threat from the president would be meaningless as they could pass continuing funding resolutions a lesson learned, I hope, from the Clinton days. The bottom line is that politically the dims do not want to go down this road and right now it is posturing and if they do try to use this procedure many will consider health care reform a failure since the only thing it will be is another tax and spend bill.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="av8torntn, post: 693861, member: 8259"] I do why? It has been used to pass budget related items in the past by both parties. There was a threat to use it to allow drilling in the national wildlife refuge that did not come to pass. I am pretty sure they cannot use it to pass that silly mandate to force people to buy insurance. From my understanding it would gut a couple other provisions the dims consider mandatory for their plan to be successful as well that are non tax or spending items. This could very well be a check mate type move for the repubs. They will be able to campaign in the mid term races on a repeal of this unpopular spending as they would then only need the 51 votes as well attached to the next budget. Since the actual programs do not start for ten years a veto threat from the president would be meaningless as they could pass continuing funding resolutions a lesson learned, I hope, from the Clinton days. The bottom line is that politically the dims do not want to go down this road and right now it is posturing and if they do try to use this procedure many will consider health care reform a failure since the only thing it will be is another tax and spend bill. [/QUOTE]
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