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<blockquote data-quote="BrownBrokeDown" data-source="post: 1385191" data-attributes="member: 46824"><p>1st, Go to the union hall and stay there until you talk to the BA.</p><p>2nd, If you get your job back, for future reference you should have immediately asked for the steward as soon as the sup told you that you weren't going to be picking off for him anymore.</p><p> </p><p>For all Newbs that read this thread. You don't need to talk to your sups boss, you don't need to talk to Hr, you don't need to talk to your pt sup about a discipline situation. As soon as a discipline situation starts, immediately ask for a steward and say that you will not continue the conversation until a steward is presence. Him telling you that you weren't not picking off due to what had happened with a trailer makes it a discipline conversation. You can request a steward on discipline conversations, and they either have to get a steward or completely drop the conversation and the discipline. This is not only in the contract, BUT IS A RULING BY THE US SUPREME COURT. Below is some additional things to know.</p><p>1.) Never walk out. This is a cardinal sin and is an automatic firing regardless of the reason.</p><p>2.) If they refuse your right to talk to a steward, keep calm. Work as directed until break or the end of the night. Then find the steward. Refusal to let you speak to a steward is a major thing. Don't worry, you own their ass.</p><p>3.)Always work as directed until you speak with a steward.</p><p>4.)Witnesses are a wonderful thing. If possible try to have conversations in front of other people as long as they are not friends with the sup.</p><p>5.)This one I have heard depends on where you are at and who you are dealing with. I don't recommend leaving your area to find a steward as this is technically not working as directed as well as job abandonment. I have never heard of anyone fired over this but there has been some "issues" over it.</p><p>6.)If you are picking off and a sup tells you they will do it because they need you loading, ask for a steward. In emergency situations where all options have been tried, they are supposed to work the low man job. Notice I said emergency situations, not every damn night. If they are working every damn night file a grievance, because they need to hire more people or bring more into your area.</p><p>7.)Don't say anything you don't have to until you speak with a steward.</p><p>8.)Don't escalate the situation before talking to a steward, let management do it. You will own there ass.</p><p> </p><p>TD;LR - <strong><u><em>NEVER WALK OUT, ALWAYS WORK AS DIRECTED UNTIL YOU SPEAK WITH A STEWARD.</em></u></strong> DON'T LISTEN TO MANAGEMENT ABOUT BOTHERING STEWARDS. THEY ARE THERE FOR A REASON. USE THEM. MANAGEMENT CANNOT RETALIATE FOR YOU ASKING OR TALKING TO A STEWARD OR IF THEY DO JUST FILE A HARASSMENT GRIEVANCE AND START SAVING FOR A DOWN PAYMENT ON A HOUSE/CAR/ETC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownBrokeDown, post: 1385191, member: 46824"] 1st, Go to the union hall and stay there until you talk to the BA. 2nd, If you get your job back, for future reference you should have immediately asked for the steward as soon as the sup told you that you weren't going to be picking off for him anymore. For all Newbs that read this thread. You don't need to talk to your sups boss, you don't need to talk to Hr, you don't need to talk to your pt sup about a discipline situation. As soon as a discipline situation starts, immediately ask for a steward and say that you will not continue the conversation until a steward is presence. Him telling you that you weren't not picking off due to what had happened with a trailer makes it a discipline conversation. You can request a steward on discipline conversations, and they either have to get a steward or completely drop the conversation and the discipline. This is not only in the contract, BUT IS A RULING BY THE US SUPREME COURT. Below is some additional things to know. 1.) Never walk out. This is a cardinal sin and is an automatic firing regardless of the reason. 2.) If they refuse your right to talk to a steward, keep calm. Work as directed until break or the end of the night. Then find the steward. Refusal to let you speak to a steward is a major thing. Don't worry, you own their ass. 3.)Always work as directed until you speak with a steward. 4.)Witnesses are a wonderful thing. If possible try to have conversations in front of other people as long as they are not friends with the sup. 5.)This one I have heard depends on where you are at and who you are dealing with. I don't recommend leaving your area to find a steward as this is technically not working as directed as well as job abandonment. I have never heard of anyone fired over this but there has been some "issues" over it. 6.)If you are picking off and a sup tells you they will do it because they need you loading, ask for a steward. In emergency situations where all options have been tried, they are supposed to work the low man job. Notice I said emergency situations, not every damn night. If they are working every damn night file a grievance, because they need to hire more people or bring more into your area. 7.)Don't say anything you don't have to until you speak with a steward. 8.)Don't escalate the situation before talking to a steward, let management do it. You will own there ass. TD;LR - [B][U][I]NEVER WALK OUT, ALWAYS WORK AS DIRECTED UNTIL YOU SPEAK WITH A STEWARD.[/I][/U][/B] DON'T LISTEN TO MANAGEMENT ABOUT BOTHERING STEWARDS. THEY ARE THERE FOR A REASON. USE THEM. MANAGEMENT CANNOT RETALIATE FOR YOU ASKING OR TALKING TO A STEWARD OR IF THEY DO JUST FILE A HARASSMENT GRIEVANCE AND START SAVING FOR A DOWN PAYMENT ON A HOUSE/CAR/ETC. [/QUOTE]
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