Good Morning BrownCafe, There was a posting for a seasonal driver position in the city I live in, so I pretty much went to the information session yesterday (Friday) along with two others who decided it wasn't for them, and since I didn't know what to expect other than I'd be walking into a boot camp situation where my past roofing job would be like a piece of cake compared to driving for UPS, I went ahead and did quite a bit of reading, scouring the forums, trying to pictures (hardly any) of the DIAD V, just to soak in some information- and memorizing the 5 seeing habits and 10 point commentary. Any who, the gentlemen was very nice and clear about explaining the situation and answering questions about the position/training/requirements, and definitely shared that when a lot of drivers aren't smiling, they're grinding their teeth due to the very tough nature of the job, as I can imagine. We got several packets of information to study over and if we were still interested, to give HR a call on Monday to start training. In addition to the 5 habits/10 points were about 4-5 smaller sections of more info that we'd be tested on, and I learned that we'd have to go to the secretary of state to get a chauffeur's license, which was new to me. The person that spoke with us mentioned that of all the time he's been there (didn't say how long) he's only seen one other seasonal driver that's been hired on as a full-time permanent driver. I love the idea of working so hard/trying to do a [safe] awesome job that I could possibly be the second person he's ever seen, and it's not so much the physical/endurance aspects of the job that sound a bit "frightening" or the driving safely or being friendly with customers or being able to put up with getting yacked at for whatever hopefully small reason, but we were told that we'd basically be fill/cover drivers for when the full-time drivers are gone for whatever, and that we'd have different routes to cover, basically, and that they'd call us the night before to let us know if we'd be working the next day. I've driven quite a bit in my car around various parts of the medium sized city/area here, except for obviously every single small street, but HOW the heck do you guys/gals find where to go? My biggest concern is the navigation issues. I wish I had stayed long enough so my brain would have thought of this question earlier? Do they print out a map of your route that includes a dot/symbol of where each delivery is? I saw a picture of a DIAD V that showed a list of addresses on it, just as reference, and assumed most of you permanent driver already know where to go, and I also remember the guy mentioning that getting a roadmap may help, but I'm curious as to how I'd supposed to know where to drive/turn next WHILE I'm driving (?) since looking at the address on the DIAD wouldn't seem to suffice with pointing out a physical location? He didn't mention anything of ORION devices as I assumed those are navigation helpers (?) in the truck but yeah, I was wondering if anyone would be nice enough to chime in with tips/advice/help for a total newbie who might be getting say, a different route to drive on every other day. If there IS a map print out of the route, is it just a matter of a noob taking it one package at a time and taking a few seconds to look at the map to figure out where to go next while paying attention to get on the correct street listed on the DIAD V and pretty much trying to memorize the street of the next delivery after the previous delivery? Anyways, before I ever started reading anything driver-related last week I figured that UPS had to have had some sort of possible real-time GPS navigation... guess not. From all that I've read, I can barely imagine how tough and strenuous the job is on all the drivers out there (and probably loaders, etc) too, so very awesome job with all the hard work you do. P.S. While I was waiting in the HR hall to go in (I was there a half hour early) I made a comment to one of the younger HR guys about the "browncafe" - lol. The person shot this site down a little bit and made it sound like just a bunch of disgruntled UPS employees get on here to chat. I haven't really seen anything too much like that so I just smiled to myself about that one. Say you have a new route, and know you'll have a new route the next day, etc... how do you know where to drive to next? I suppose that's my biggest question. I know time is crucial and if I'd be delivering 100-200 packages on a route, time is of essence and I'd just want to do the best, safest job I could. My apologies for the long post when I could have just asked the questions.