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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 1004577" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>What they want is to be extremely profitable while paying us as little as possible.  Keep in mind that as they take more and more from UPS it'll be tougher to pay those great wages and benefits.  If you are going to get all competitive and say you won't lose to Ground then put yourself in the shoes of shipping mgrs at large corporations.  They are going to go with the cheaper service as long as it gets there in a reasonable time.  I've seen the prices.  You can't compete and pay high wages and benefits.  If UPS drivers are smart they'll start living like monks and save and invest until it hurts.</p></blockquote><p></p>