How Hatred Came To Dominate American Politics

cheryl

I started this.
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How Hatred Came To Dominate American Politics - Five Thirty Eight

To anyone following American politics, it’s not exactly news that Democrats and Republicans don’t like each other. Take what happened in the presidential debate last week. President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden did little to conceal their disdain of one another. And although the debate marked a low point in our national discourse, it was a crystallization of a long-developing trend: loathing the opposing party.

This is hardly a new trend; in fact, it’s increasingly common among American voters. However, this level of hatred — which political scientists call “negative partisanship” — has reached levels that are not just bad for democracy, but are potentially destructive. And extreme partisan animosity is a prelude to democratic collapse.

It wasn’t always this bad, though. Forty years ago, when asked to rate how “favorable and warm” their opinion of each party was, the average Democrat and Republican said they felt OK-ish about the opposite party. But for four decades now, partisans have increasingly turned against each other in an escalating cycle of dislike and distrust — views of the other party are currently at an all-time low.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
How Hatred Came To Dominate American Politics - FIve Thirty Eight

To anyone following American politics, it’s not exactly news that Democrats and Republicans don’t like each other. Take what happened in the presidential debate last week. President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden did little to conceal their disdain of one another. And although the debate marked a low point in our national discourse, it was a crystallization of a long-developing trend: loathing the opposing party.

This is hardly a new trend; in fact, it’s increasingly common among American voters. However, this level of hatred — which political scientists call “negative partisanship” — has reached levels that are not just bad for democracy, but are potentially destructive. And extreme partisan animosity is a prelude to democratic collapse.

It wasn’t always this bad, though. Forty years ago, when asked to rate how “favorable and warm” their opinion of each party was, the average Democrat and Republican said they felt OK-ish about the opposite party. But for four decades now, partisans have increasingly turned against each other in an escalating cycle of dislike and distrust — views of the other party are currently at an all-time low.
Proof that a weak central government is in the best interest of the nation. Power is what our Senators and Representatives seek.

Power should remain local, where it can do the most good, and least harm.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
How Hatred Came To Dominate American Politics - FIve Thirty Eight

To anyone following American politics, it’s not exactly news that Democrats and Republicans don’t like each other. Take what happened in the presidential debate last week. President Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden did little to conceal their disdain of one another. And although the debate marked a low point in our national discourse, it was a crystallization of a long-developing trend: loathing the opposing party.

This is hardly a new trend; in fact, it’s increasingly common among American voters. However, this level of hatred — which political scientists call “negative partisanship” — has reached levels that are not just bad for democracy, but are potentially destructive. And extreme partisan animosity is a prelude to democratic collapse.

It wasn’t always this bad, though. Forty years ago, when asked to rate how “favorable and warm” their opinion of each party was, the average Democrat and Republican said they felt OK-ish about the opposite party. But for four decades now, partisans have increasingly turned against each other in an escalating cycle of dislike and distrust — views of the other party are currently at an all-time low.

I have a history book on political cartoons, the discord going on with this election is not even close to what Abraham Lincoln went through in the 1860's. I believe that some of the representatives were actually physically fighting and shooting at each other on the congress or senate floors, pistols duels were outlawed back then but still were happening over political disagreements.

The American system is healthy when people no matter what their beliefs have the right to disagree, the trouble starts when one side feels so alienated to a point of isolating themselves, this is how these fringe groups get started whether conservative or liberal. Take a look at the electoral college, the Democrats control the coasts and big cities the Republicans the middle states and the rural areas, it is a matter of count and balances that still has America on top of the food chain and leading the world in every category of Economic Growth and Military Strength no matter who the figurehead or individual that occupies the White House, Senate, Congress and the Court...
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
The fact that the President's news coverage is well over 90 percent negative is indicated of tremendous liberal media bias. Social media and the internet allows a way around their influence and serves to highlight this bias. They cannot get away with controlling the narrative as they were able to 40 years ago. The result will be friction among the two factions.
 

quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
Let's talk about hatred. Who is burning down cities? Who lives in these cities? Who runs these cities? A quick glance will reveal.....wait for it....Democrats. Why are Democrats so hateful and angry? How does a city become Democratically controlled? Why? And most importantly, why do the citizens re-elect(time after time) that same leadership?

What is most frightening(to me) is the naked attempt to bring Communism into power in the US. It's not even covert. Not back alley/basement stuff anymore. Look at places like Michigan. Michigan! What's going on up there? How did Somalies take over and actually infiltrate American politics? Hatred is on the far left and what I take as defense of American ideas and way of life on the far right. Then there is the middle(most people). The bombing of Pearl Harbor brought the sleepy middle to full attention.....and they fought back hard with everything they had. This included blood and treasure. And while technically the Japanese and Germans weren't "communist", the effect was the same: totalitarianism. Democratic socialism isn't something different. It always devolves into communism. This is a con of mega proportions. it's being touted in broad daylight. Most folks are tolerant and want to live and let live.....until that freedom is infringed upon. I grew up a lower middle class white kid. We went to school, played football and had guns. Pretty typical just about anywhere in the USA for the last 70 years. Why is this now some hate filled America? What happened? I am not a racist. Most people aren't. But then all of this Democrat based hate is not about racism....it's about making America Communist. Hey black folks-white people will still be in power. Simply by numbers. Look at Russia and China, some of the most racist and pure ethnic countries anywhere. Hell, even the black dominant communist countries in Africa are pure racist. Yes, black(people of color) people are some of the biggest racist and communist. Witness AOC and the squad.

McCarthy was exactly correct. There are many communist throughout American society. Especially in Hollywood and even the govt. Do you think the American public will allow a communist take over? Is the average American yearning to become like China or even Cuba? How about Venezuela? Really? Yearning to give up all freedoms. Yes, that's what it means. Yearning to be led by regimes responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. This folks is hate. Don't think so? "Democratic Socialism" will be different? Never has never will.

Hate? Peel back the layers. I haven't even mentioned the racist Democratic past(and present). Take a hard look around at who is causing this "hate".
 
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It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Let's talk about hatred. Who is burning down cities? Who lives in these cities? Who runs these cities? A quick glance will reveal.....wait for it....Democrats. Why are Democrats so hateful and angry? How does a city become Democratically controlled? Why? And most importantly, why do the citizens re-elect(time after time) that same leadership?

What is most frightening(to me) is the naked attempt to bring Communism into power in the US. It's not even covert. Not back alley/basement stuff anymore. Look at places like Michigan. Michigan! What's going on up there? How did Somalies take over and actually infiltrate American politics? Hatred is on the far left and what I take as defense of American ideas and way of life on the far right. Then there is the middle(most people). The bombing of Pearl Harbor brought the sleepy middle to full attention.....and they fought back hard with everything they had. This included blood and treasure. And while technically the Japanese and Germans weren't "communist", the effect was the same: totalitarianism. Democratic socialism isn't something different. It always devolves into communism. This is a con of mega proportions. it's being touted in broad daylight. Most folks are tolerant and want to live and let live.....until that freedom is infringed upon. I grew ups a lower middle class white kid. We went to school, played football and had guns. Pretty typical just about anywhere in the USA for the last 70 years. Why is this now some hate filled America? What happened? I am not a racist. Most people aren't. But then all of this Democrat based hate is not about racism....it's about making America Communist. Hey black folks-white people will still be in power. Simply by numbers. Look at Russia and China, some of the most racist and pure ethnic countries anywhere. Hell, even the black dominant communist countries in Africa are pure racist. Yes, black(people of color) people are some of the biggest racist and communist. Witness AOC and the squad.

McCarthy was exactly correct. There are many communist throughout American society. Especially in Hollywood and even the govt. Do you think the American public will allow a communist take over? Is the average American yearning to become like China or even Cuba? How about Venezuela? Really? Yearning to give up all freedoms. Yes, that's what it means. Yearning to be led by regimes responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. This folks is hate. Don't think so? "Democratic Socialism" will be different? Never has never will.

Hate? Peel back the layers. I haven't even mentioned the racist Democratic past(and present). Take a hard look around at who is causing this "hate".
Lol a hate filled rant about how the other side is hateful. You can’t make this up.
 

quad decade guy

Well-Known Member
Lol a hate filled rant about how the other side is hateful. You can’t make this up.


Interesting what you call "hate". Reviewing history isn't "hateful". Notice how(when criticized)(the left)(you) always skip over the murder of hundreds of millions.....this is the "hate" we are fighting. Yeah, you can't make that up or cover it up. But you are trying hard. Now, about that history....Notice how you didn't refute ANYTHING I said. You can't. It's pure fact(history)(recorded). Let's ask this: Do you think the average American thinks and talks like say Ilhan Omar? Hate filled Anti-American speech? Clearly communist. Really? A truly hateful person. The face of your party. You. If you are a Democrat, this is you. let's talk about hate.
 
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DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Lol a hate filled rant about how the other side is hateful. You can’t make this up.

Face it the only hate and violence is coming from the leftists hate groups, I do not see the these so called white extremist rioting, looting or burning down buildings, all I seen from them is posturing and occasionally engage in fist fights when physically provoked.

Come on Man...prove your prior statement "hate filled rant" doesn't qualify as a crime yet in America. I am real surprised that the ultra right groups have maintained some form of civility with the way the left has been given free reign over some of our cities. Only one incident were a frightened 17 year old kid was caught up in Mob violence and had to defend myself because these rioters thought they had an easy target, even when he was carrying a rifle. The question whether he should of been put into that environment is another story. The ultra leftist punk who shot and killed the right wing marcher who was not physically threatening him evenly got what he deserved...If Biden somehow gets elected that Kid will be prosecuted and serve time just to make an example of anybody who opposes his base, if Trump gets elected he will be judged and be given a fair trail and if be will be pardoned. Just study on record how BLM or those privileged spoiled products of years of liberal indoctrination are threatening more violence, looting and burning if Trump gets another term..and Biden quietly plays patty cake with them to prevent him from losing that base...

Trump is going to win come November 3rd and there is nothing these left wing hate groups can do about it. They run like rabbits when the National Guard comes into place, most are already facing fines and jail time that they cannot escape, besides that all of them are eagerly awaiting their new and improved stimulus checks from the federal government that they want to destroy...Such Fools..."You just can't make this up!"
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Face it the only hate and violence is coming from the leftists hate groups, I do not see the these so called white extremist rioting, looting or burning down buildings, all I seen from them is posturing and occasionally engage in fist fights when physically provoked.

Come on Man...prove your prior statement "hate filled rant" doesn't qualify as a crime yet in America. I am real surprised that the ultra right groups have maintained some form of civility with the way the left has been given free reign over some of our cities. Only one incident were a frightened 17 year old kid was caught up in Mob violence and had to defend myself because these rioters thought they had an easy target, even when he was carrying a rifle. The question whether he should of been put into that environment is another story. The ultra leftist punk who shot and killed the right wing marcher who was not physically threatening him evenly got what he deserved...If Biden somehow gets elected that Kid will be prosecuted and serve time just to make an example of anybody who opposes his base, if Trump gets elected he will be judged and be given a fair trail and if be will be pardoned. Just study on record how BLM or those privileged spoiled products of years of liberal indoctrination are threatening more violence, looting and burning if Trump gets another term..and Biden quietly plays patty cake with them to prevent him from losing that base...

Trump is going to win come November 3rd and there is nothing these left wing hate groups can do about it. They run like rabbits when the National Guard comes into place, most are already facing fines and jail time that they cannot escape, besides that all of them are eagerly awaiting their new and improved stimulus checks from the federal government that they want to destroy...Such Fools..."You just can't make this up!"
Someone making a mean comment on twitter is not equal to looting and burning buildings. Despite the left's attempts to claim it is.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
Interesting what you call "hate". Reviewing history isn't "hateful". Notice how(when criticized)(the left)(you) always skip over the murder of hundreds of millions.....this is the "hate" we are fighting. Yeah, you can't make that up or cover it up. But you are trying hard. Now, about that history....Notice how you didn't refute ANYTHING I said. You can't. It's pure fact(history)(recorded). Let's ask this: Do you think the average American thinks and talks like say Ilhan Omar? Hate filled Anti-American speech? Clearly communist. Really? A truly hateful person. The face of your party. You. If you are a Democrat, this is you. let's talk about hate.
Wow a right wing making his argument personal! I’m shocked!
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Right wingers showed up armed to Michigan’s capitol and a group subsequently hatched a plot to kidnap the Governor and overthrow the government.

You got stupid idiots on both sides..hatching a plot is a crime, but doing it is worst...

What was their master plan after kidnapping the Governor?, which was never going to happen because the Feds were on them like chickens on watermelon...Their ultimate dream check list probably had kidnapping Trump, Biden or Pelosi to boot...Losers..Now for political reasons this Democratic Governor is blaming Trump..Pathetic...
 

oldngray

nowhere special
You got stupid idiots on both sides..hatching a plot is a crime, but doing it is worst...

What was their master plan after kidnapping the Governor?, which was never going to happen because the Feds were on them like chickens on watermelon...Their ultimate dream check list probably had kidnapping Trump, Biden or Pelosi to boot...Losers..Now for political reasons this Democratic Governor is blaming Trump..Pathetic...
Those idiots hate Trump and support BLM. Doesn't sound very right wing to me.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Come on man, just because they went after a liberal governor doesn't make them right wing. This is what getting what you sow looks like. Your side let Antifa and BLM run wild this summer because you thought it would hurt Trump's chances. Skewed logic. What you did was embolden the lunatic left fringe to act out in more and more extreme ways.
 
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