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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 93594" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>If you have to ask, then you missed the purpose.</p><p> </p><p>Pal, sorry you feel the way you do. In the past our center has been that way, the only way you would not have been charged is if an airplane fell from the sky and hit your package car. We did have a teen that hit the back of one of the cars while the driver was making a delivery and killed himself, and they ruled that one as unavoidable.</p><p> </p><p>But we had a driver that was parked, clarifying a signature (on paper) and a trash truck backed into him, pinning him inside for several hours until they cut him out, and they charged him with an accident. </p><p> </p><p>So it would seem there is no real logical way that UPS determines that one is avoidable or not.</p><p> </p><p>I would love to see a panel of drivers and management that make that decision, with the final say given to the district manager. But the panel would recommend avoidable or not. I think that would make it more even from one accident to another, and not left up to the whims of the delivery or center manager.</p><p> </p><p>This would also, IMHO, make the safety committee mean something to the rest of the drivers. Until drivers or other hourly workers see that they can impact the way things are done, and not just do busy work that is mandated by OSHA or whom ever the taste of the month lies.</p><p> </p><p>Just my thoughts.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 93594, member: 484"] If you have to ask, then you missed the purpose. Pal, sorry you feel the way you do. In the past our center has been that way, the only way you would not have been charged is if an airplane fell from the sky and hit your package car. We did have a teen that hit the back of one of the cars while the driver was making a delivery and killed himself, and they ruled that one as unavoidable. But we had a driver that was parked, clarifying a signature (on paper) and a trash truck backed into him, pinning him inside for several hours until they cut him out, and they charged him with an accident. So it would seem there is no real logical way that UPS determines that one is avoidable or not. I would love to see a panel of drivers and management that make that decision, with the final say given to the district manager. But the panel would recommend avoidable or not. I think that would make it more even from one accident to another, and not left up to the whims of the delivery or center manager. This would also, IMHO, make the safety committee mean something to the rest of the drivers. Until drivers or other hourly workers see that they can impact the way things are done, and not just do busy work that is mandated by OSHA or whom ever the taste of the month lies. Just my thoughts. d [/QUOTE]
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