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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 94368" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>Ill do you one better than that. It is my observation at UPS that those drivers that have never had an accident, never had a ticket of any type are those drivers that take the time to do things right. Each and every time. And I will also tell you that while experience and training plays a very large role in the over all safety picture, there is a bit of luck involved to. Or Divine guidance.</p><p> </p><p>I will also tell you that in cutting corners to run the numbers that the company wants drivers to run, leaves many drivers wide open for accidents. Cutting corners is never ever the answer.</p><p> </p><p>As to your 60-40, in most places including ours, it is more along the lines of 90-10 or more in favor of avoidable. Which is a real shame as it leads to the feeling of futility on the part of the drivers. And then when you have one of our drivers have a roll away(lucky to only have minimal damage to our car and a sign) and the accident is not avoidable (this driver singlehandedly is responsible for 50% of torn off mirrors, most while leaving the building, several torn off bumpers and an in the building side swipe) none of which got him charged with an accident, and then you charge someone with an avoidable when avoiding a head on with a school bus in your side of the road, and all that happened is you broke the top mirror? </p><p> </p><p>All the drivers ask for is a level playing field. Someone to look at the incident and rule on it by the available information only, not by who the driver is.</p><p> </p><p>And yes, just like trick posted earlier, the afore mentioned driver is one of those that runs like a bat out of hell, cuts corners on safety and service, has such a bad attitude toward customers that he has been banned from four routes, but he runs 1-2 hours under on most routes, and is off the clock in 6-7 hours. He has also put in for full time management 6 or 7 times now over the past 10 years.</p><p> </p><p>Oh and did I mention, he is also on the injury repeater list each and every year, along with the auto repeater list.</p><p> </p><p>So while you and I agree on many issues, first hand experience has taught me that Trick's attitude, while somewhat stereotypical at times, is one that has been given to him by his management team. I could very easily digress to the same attitude, but I still have hope of something better. And work to try and change the system.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 94368, member: 484"] Ill do you one better than that. It is my observation at UPS that those drivers that have never had an accident, never had a ticket of any type are those drivers that take the time to do things right. Each and every time. And I will also tell you that while experience and training plays a very large role in the over all safety picture, there is a bit of luck involved to. Or Divine guidance. I will also tell you that in cutting corners to run the numbers that the company wants drivers to run, leaves many drivers wide open for accidents. Cutting corners is never ever the answer. As to your 60-40, in most places including ours, it is more along the lines of 90-10 or more in favor of avoidable. Which is a real shame as it leads to the feeling of futility on the part of the drivers. And then when you have one of our drivers have a roll away(lucky to only have minimal damage to our car and a sign) and the accident is not avoidable (this driver singlehandedly is responsible for 50% of torn off mirrors, most while leaving the building, several torn off bumpers and an in the building side swipe) none of which got him charged with an accident, and then you charge someone with an avoidable when avoiding a head on with a school bus in your side of the road, and all that happened is you broke the top mirror? All the drivers ask for is a level playing field. Someone to look at the incident and rule on it by the available information only, not by who the driver is. And yes, just like trick posted earlier, the afore mentioned driver is one of those that runs like a bat out of hell, cuts corners on safety and service, has such a bad attitude toward customers that he has been banned from four routes, but he runs 1-2 hours under on most routes, and is off the clock in 6-7 hours. He has also put in for full time management 6 or 7 times now over the past 10 years. Oh and did I mention, he is also on the injury repeater list each and every year, along with the auto repeater list. So while you and I agree on many issues, first hand experience has taught me that Trick's attitude, while somewhat stereotypical at times, is one that has been given to him by his management team. I could very easily digress to the same attitude, but I still have hope of something better. And work to try and change the system. d [/QUOTE]
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