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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 94646" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p>with all due respect your handling of my response where I continously stated the information was incomplete yet you assumed a judgement in my humble opinion shows a deep seated anger on the subject that gets me a response from you I have not earned. </p><p> </p><p>I deal with this subject all the time , I investiage accidents all the time and I think i should at least be given some credit for understanding this subject. I have seen numerous accidents where it appeared the other motorist had some type of death wish and ran into us. I have seen some where I questioned what really happened but could not prove avoidability. And I have some where drivers clearly screwed up. Most of these drivers were very honest and told me they screwed up. You will find an example in every center where some overzealous management person labeled an accident avoidable when only jesus christ could have avoided the accident. that does not disqualify the whole process.</p><p> </p><p>Trickpony made the point that the company classifies avoidable and fires the driver to try to avoid responsibility for the lawsuit. My experience has been that we often pay for accidents that are not our fault. Some judge looks at the poor schumk that had the brainfart and ran into us and figures Bigbadbrown can aford to pay the guys medical bills better then the schumk can. Therefore we pay even when its not our fault. This has happened many times. So if there is any motivation to avoid the lawsuit it has to start by coming up with the answer that helps us avoid having the accident at all. Most of us in management do not have someone breathing down our necks trying to force us to find all accidents avoidable. We instead try to maintain the integrity of the process. We try to look at the accident see if there was something reasonable that the driver could have done to prevent that accident. We try to give the driver the benifit of the doubt while at the same time maintaining the integrity of the process. Most will not want to hear that but this is the honest answer most management will give you. </p><p> </p><p>You previously said all accidents in your building are charged as avoidable. How many feeder accidents do you have in your area every year where a feeder driver or even a package driver hits a deer. Most if not all of those are always unavoidable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 94646, member: 1912"] with all due respect your handling of my response where I continously stated the information was incomplete yet you assumed a judgement in my humble opinion shows a deep seated anger on the subject that gets me a response from you I have not earned. I deal with this subject all the time , I investiage accidents all the time and I think i should at least be given some credit for understanding this subject. I have seen numerous accidents where it appeared the other motorist had some type of death wish and ran into us. I have seen some where I questioned what really happened but could not prove avoidability. And I have some where drivers clearly screwed up. Most of these drivers were very honest and told me they screwed up. You will find an example in every center where some overzealous management person labeled an accident avoidable when only jesus christ could have avoided the accident. that does not disqualify the whole process. Trickpony made the point that the company classifies avoidable and fires the driver to try to avoid responsibility for the lawsuit. My experience has been that we often pay for accidents that are not our fault. Some judge looks at the poor schumk that had the brainfart and ran into us and figures Bigbadbrown can aford to pay the guys medical bills better then the schumk can. Therefore we pay even when its not our fault. This has happened many times. So if there is any motivation to avoid the lawsuit it has to start by coming up with the answer that helps us avoid having the accident at all. Most of us in management do not have someone breathing down our necks trying to force us to find all accidents avoidable. We instead try to maintain the integrity of the process. We try to look at the accident see if there was something reasonable that the driver could have done to prevent that accident. We try to give the driver the benifit of the doubt while at the same time maintaining the integrity of the process. Most will not want to hear that but this is the honest answer most management will give you. You previously said all accidents in your building are charged as avoidable. How many feeder accidents do you have in your area every year where a feeder driver or even a package driver hits a deer. Most if not all of those are always unavoidable. [/QUOTE]
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