I got a DWI...what's next?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by code42, Aug 2, 2009.

  1. code42

    code42 New Member

    Friday after work I went out with a few friends. I made a poor choice and drove after drinking. In my state I lose my license for 7 days automatically. I am going to ask the court Monday for a restricted license for work during that 7 day period. After that it is returned to me until the court proceedings are over. When do I have to report the issue to my sup, and can I keep my job? I have heard that I don't need to report it until I am convicted, and That I must report it right away. What if I have a restricted license for work? I know I made a poor choice, but I have some very special people that depend on me to work. All help is greatly appreciated.
  2. jimstud

    jimstud Banned

    you need to report that right away or you will lose your job.you can not be fired for getting a dui but you will get fired if you don't report it. you will be offered alt. work ,sometimes it is a srtaight 8 and sometimes it is a split shift half preload half twi. it all depends on your building but please report it as soon as possible.
  3. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    What Jim said, you must report it immediately or you will lose your job. You will probably have to work inside for awhile, that seems to be the pattern around here.
  4. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    Section 3. Loss of License
    Section 3.1 Leave of Absence
    When an employee, in any job classification requiring driving, loses his or
    her operating privilege or whose license has been suspended or revoked for
    reasons other than those for which the employee can be discharged by the
    Employer, leave shall be granted for such time as the employee�s operating
    privilege or license had been suspended or revoked but not for a period
    longer than one (1) year, provided the driver whose operating privilege or
    license has been suspended or revoked notifies the employee�s immediate
    supervisor before the employee�s next report to work of such suspension or
    revocation. The above provision need apply only to the first (lst)
    suspension or revocation except for suspension of commercial drivers license
    (CDL) of one (1) year or less duration.

    Employees who take a leave of absence under this Section whose loss of
    operating privilege or license is the result of driving under the influence of
    drugs or alcohol will be allowed alternative work and to return to their job in
    accordance with Section 3.3 below.

    Section 3.2 Alternate Work (Other than Alcohol/Controlled Substance)
    When an employee, in any job classification requiring driving, has lost
    his/her license under this Article he/she shall be afforded the opportunity to
    displace junior, one (1) full-time or two (2) part-time, inside employees, until
    he/she can return to his/her driving job, not to exceed one (1) year, unless
    provided for otherwise in the Supplements, Riders or Addenda. The
    employee shall receive the appropriate rate of pay for the job performed
    based on his/her seniority. Coverage for benefits shall continue for the length
    of the leave of absence or for the job duration, up to one (1) year.

    Section 3.3 Alternative Work (Alcohol/Controlled Substance)
    When an employee, in any job classification requiring driving, has lost
    his/her license for driving under the influence of alcohol or a controlled
    substance he/she will be offered available inside work of one (1) full-time or
    two (2) part-time openings, not to exceed one (1) year provided that the
    employee is assessed by a Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) and is
    released to return to work by the SAP. The SAP shall establish the terms
    upon which the employee may return to work. The employee must also enter
    a rehabilitation program, if required by the SAP, within one (1) month of the
    SAP�s assessment. The employee shall be returned to driving once he/she
    successfully completes the rehabilitation program, provided his/her driving
    privileges have been restored. The employee shall receive the appropriate
    rate of pay for the job performed based on his/her seniority. Coverage for
    benefits shall continue for the length of the leave of absence or for the job
    duration, up to one (1) year.

    Any driver cited for Driving Under the Influence who does not have his/her
    license suspended, or who has limited driving privileges, shall be assessed by
    a SAP within five (5) working days of the citation. If the SAP determines the
    driver does not require rehabilitation, then he/she shall be allowed to return
    to driving. Until the assessment is completed, the driver shall be allowed to
    work inside in accordance with the paragraph above. If rehabilitation is
    required, the above paragraph shall also be applicable. The one time right to
    rehabilitation provided in Article 35, Section 4.11 shall not be applicable to a
    driver who completes a rehabilitation program under this paragraph, unless,
    as a result of the DUI citation, the driver is convicted or loses his/her license
    for driving.


    Bottom line is; you have to report your DUI to management prior to the start of your next shift. You will be asessed by a SAP (substance abuse professional) and cannot return to driving until you have completed rehab and gotten your lisence back. Until then you can still work in the hub or preload in a non-driving capacity.

    This will be your last chance. Get another DUI and you will be terminated from employment at UPS. You screwed up; learn your lesson, get help if you need it, and be grateful you didnt kill anyone.
  5. ups1990

    ups1990 Well-Known Member

    Stop drinking. Learn from it and never let this happen to you again, please.
  6. code42

    code42 New Member

    Thanks for the response.
  7. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    "Rarely have we seen a person fail...." just curious.
  8. code42

    code42 New Member

    I reported it, and was told I had to see a SAP counselor before I return to driving. I know there is inside work available to me,but when can I start that? Do I need to see the Sap people first, or can I start tomorrow?
  9. Billy

    Billy New Member

    I know how you feel. You can start inside work immediately. What will happen next is a SAP member will contact you and set you up with a counselor. You will meet with them and they will asses your case. After that you need to complete what ever program they say you need to. Then you'll return to then and have to pee clean. After all that your back in the saddle, and never going to allow it to happen again.
  10. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    2 drivers on my center have been terminated in the last 18 months for getting a second DWI.

    They both got a second chance....and they both blew it.

    Both of them did some time in jail, and will be without a drivers license for at least 5 more years.

    One guy was a 24 year driver. One more year, and he would have been eligible for PEER 80 once he was old enough to qualify. Now, he will have to wait until he is 62 years old to collect on his pension and it will be less than half of what he would have gotten had he finished out his career at UPS and retired on PEER 80 at the age of 54.

    That last DWI will wind up costing this driver almost $750,000 in lost wages and pension over the course of his remaining lifetime. The last time I heard, this guy was riding around on a 10-speed bike and working some crap job at a restaraunt.

    I am a recovering alcoholic with over 12 yrs sober. By the grace of God I did not ever get a DWI....but I attend meetings with people who have done prison time for multiple DWI's. One guy I know killed someone while driving drunk, he did 5 yrs in the joint and he will have to live with what he did for the rest of his life.

    You have an opportunity here to choose a different path with a better ending. You are lucky. Please take advantage of your good luck by learning a lesson.
  11. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    The full quote from the text of Alcoholics Anonymous reads..."rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path."

    I believe this to be true. I have seen many people fail who tried to take shortcuts or do the program half-assed.

    I have also seen people succeed in recovery who by all rights should be dead or insane or homeless and sleeping in the gutter.

    Those who are willing to go to any lengths are the ones who succeed at getting sober.
  12. christian c

    christian c New Member

    I am a friend of Bill W. as well.
    never got a DWI but a UPS driver attends the same meetings i go to. He reported it immediately and still drives his same route. I dont know about your state but here in texas they almost always send you to some meetings. See you in AA :happy:
  13. Firedbrowndriver

    Firedbrowndriver New Member

    I was in the same boat as you a few months ago. I got a dui and UPS an the union told me that if I get another I will be terminated. It is the contract also.. They are not kidding either. I no longer work there and I thought I would give you a heads up. Good luck!
  14. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

  15. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    14 years as of June 12 2009. Only meant the partial quote as an inquiry as to a fellow member not any kind of challenge. In fact I am a former UPS driver. Apparently my drinking and drug use did not fit in with UPS's coporate image of itself.:wink2:
  16. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    I feel soo sorry for you.
    And maybe a 12step program, just because of a weekend out.

    As many of you know, I lost my job, for drinking.

    But, today, after this posting, I really thought to myself, what is worse ?
    DUI or jobloss ?

    I would pick the jobloss.

    And, I kinda feel bad that my future was taken away.
    But, it's really hard for you, too.

    Here it's 1 yr lost of licence the first time. Thats a long time.

    Wishing you well, and hang in there. Things will look brighter in a couple of years !
  17. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    I am not sure who you are feeling sorry for. I certainly hope not me. My life has never been better. There is life after Brown and it can be absolutely delicious.
  18. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    for code 42. I couldn't make preload without a licence, no way to get there at 3am. And late evenings, not even sure transit drives that late into the night. It sucks here.
    I lost my job, but got my licence.
    I also live alone, no relatives, family in this city. Would be a pain to get groceries and basic needs. Never mind, getting a new job.
    Our transit sucks soo much, earliest starting time (for work) by bus is 7am, and you barely make it.
    Life after brown will treat me good too. I have faith in that.
    Leaving home at 7am, getting home between 8 and 9pm. That sucked.