I guess the misclassification issues for FedEx goes on

[MAKAVELI]

http://m.fleetowner.com/regulations/new-jersey-bill-reclassifies-independent-truckers

 

[thedownhillEXPRESS]

The republican opponents of the bill and their talking points disgust me.
Sounds like they were sent right from the desk of Fred.

 

[Cactus]

"The Republican leadership and the entire party have voted against this job-killing, American-dream killing bill.”

What a load of crap.

The American dream they're talking about being killed is the one of the wealthy CEO's.

 

[purplesky]

“the misclassification of employees presents a serious problem, as these employees often are denied access to critical benefits and protections — such as family and medical leave, overtime compensation, minimum wage pay and Unemployment Insurance — to which they are entitled.

Sounds like FDX ground.

 

[bbsam]

Actually, Fedex is way out in front of the law with its requirement that contractors own ar least 3.routes.

 

[MrFedEx]

Actually, Fedex is way out in front of the law with its requirement that contractors own ar least 3.routes.

Yep, a convenient way to circumvent the law. WTF difference doe it make if you own 3 routes or 23 if the underlying business model is a scam?

 

[MAKAVELI]

Actually, Fedex is way out in front of the law with its requirement that contractors own ar least 3.routes.

Read the bill. It doesn't mention anything about number of routes.

 

[MrFedEx]

Read the bill. It doesn't mention anything about number of routes.

I think bbsam thinks Ground is untouchable. Maybe, maybe not. Fred can't buy everyone.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Read the bill. It doesn't mention anything about number of routes.

I think bbsam thinks Ground is untouchable. Maybe, maybe not. Fred can't buy everyone.

I guess we'll see if Christie has a sack to go against his party.

 

[MrFedEx]

I guess we'll see if Christie has a sack to go against his party.

Fat Boy probably can't risk alienating any more GOP faithful. When he took Federal Aid from that "Commie" Obama for Sandy, Christie pissed a lot of them off.

 

[Code 82 Approved]

I think bbsam thinks Ground is untouchable. Maybe, maybe not. Fred can't buy everyone.

I own a domain he(legal) told me to surrender, I do have a price. Funny it's your handle here mrfedex!

 

[bbsam]

Read the bill. It doesn't mention anything about number of routes.

Wow. It most certainly does. You just have to understand the context in which this bill resides.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Read the bill. It doesn't mention anything about number of routes.

Wow. It most certainly does. You just have to understand the context in which this bill resides.

And what is exactly the context? Please explain oh wise one.

 

[bbsam]

Ok. It has to do with the fact that all Ground contractors are incorporated. They are set up as a business entity. How many corporations are employees? Buy it doesn't end there. The 3 route requirement satisfies what the courts look for in a company in the management by the owner to generate a profit or absorb a loss. It is not pay based on hours or piece work or salary. Services are rendered by a company that has money invested in equipment and personnel in order to provide the good or service.



The bill presumes an employee/emoyer relationship u less the contractor or recipient of the good or service can show otherwise.



As I said. FedEx is way out front on this.

 

[MAKAVELI]

The bill presumes an employee/emoyer relationship u less the contractor or recipient of the good or service can show otherwise.

This is the key paragraph. You are ass-uming outcome of that situation before it is litigated.

 

[overflowed]

This is the key paragraph. You are ass-uming outcome of that situation before it is litigated.

+1

 

[overflowed]

Ok. It has to do with the fact that all Ground contractors are incorporated. They are set up as a business entity. How many corporations are employees? Buy it doesn't end there. The 3 route requirement satisfies what the courts look for in a company in the management by the owner to generate a profit or absorb a loss. It is not pay based on hours or piece work or salary. Services are rendered by a company that has money invested in equipment and personnel in order to provide the good or service.



The bill presumes an employee/emoyer relationship u less the contractor or recipient of the good or service can show otherwise.



As I said. FedEx is way out front on this.

So in essence BB you are saying fedex fixed the scam so all is good? This doesn't make you nervous that it might get the snow ball rolling? If anyone thinks more than the way you do, it's politicians. As long as it benefits them.

 

[STFXG]

Are you guys trying to say BB is an employee of fedex and not independent? Really?

 

[bbsam]

So in essence BB you are saying fedex fixed the scam so all is good? This doesn't make you nervous that it might get the snow ball rolling? If anyone thinks more than the way you do, it's politicians. As long as it benefits them.

Not at all. The snowball rolled a long time ago. This bill is aimed at the business model Ground used years ago and other companies use today. Ground has shown them the formula to continue to use contractors should they so choose.

 

[MAKAVELI]

So in essence BB you are saying fedex fixed the scam so all is good? This doesn't make you nervous that it might get the snow ball rolling? If anyone thinks more than the way you do, it's politicians. As long as it benefits them.

Not at all. The snowball rolled a long time ago. This bill is aimed at the business model Ground used years ago and other companies use today. Ground has shown them the formula to continue to use contractors should they so choose.

It doesn't look like ground meets any of those listed criteria to be considered contractors.