I will never understand....

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Netsua 3:16, Nov 13, 2018.

  1. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    "Ok guys, air is late. Get on the road and we'll shuttle it out to you."
    2 hrs later a shuttle guy brings you 5 pieces of air which will cost you an extra hour to deliver, since you'll be going back over areas you already were in.
    Shuttle guy is back to to the building by noon. Sits there for a few hours. Clocks off early.
    WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE SHUTTLE GUYS DELIVER THE AIR????
     
  2. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    They won’t be able to code them off for safety all day if they deliver. They would go up routes which would affect a center manager’s bonus. It’s like legalized insider trading.
     
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  3. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    Stupid. Shuttle guy makes the same amount either way (assuming he's an RPCD).
    So a shuttle guy codes under safety???? I guess if it's preventing egress....
     
  4. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Always give the shuttle guy two addresses behind you so it takes him an hour to actually find you.
     
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  5. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    I've already learned that you don't go out of your way to meet up with a shuttle guy. Let them come to you; fell for the whole "meet me 15 minutes outside your route" thing one time and that was one time too many
     
  6. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    It’s coded to feeder, centers are allowed a certain number of routes/ drivers per upper management. Gain some seniority and maybe you can run shuttle. Until then shut it
     
  7. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    Thought you newbies wanted OT
     
  8. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    No. I want to SURVIVE until I get my own route. Single no kids cheap living situation. Keep the ot for the guys with 2017 F-150's and and 3000$ a month house payment.
     
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  9. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    Just curious, never made sense to me until I read this thread. I've ran shuttle before, gravy train
     
  10. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    Don’t kid yourself son.

    I am an on car. It still makes no sense to code 3-4 guys as shuttle. Let one stop get delivered by one of them and hear about it all day because ONE STOP affects a stupid number. We get caught chasing the wrong thing so many times. This is one of those times.

    Late air brought to you is coded as shuttle but is coded to the center, not feeders. It’s absolute stupidity. Feeder shuttles run on a schedule that has specific days and work moving from one specific center to another.
     
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  11. hellfire

    hellfire no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG

    Do you want me to take a picture of the Diad codes when I run late air shuttle?????? Per my center manager it’s feeder..
     
  12. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    Sure. I’ll tell you if it’s feeders or not. When late air is shuttled our to drivers it’s coded to the center, not feeders. Under the code unscheduled shuttle to maintain the illusion of stops per car but still affects NDPPH. But just get it done, blah blah blah.
     
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  13. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    Logistics not logic is becoming the answer to every one of these questions I have.
     
  14. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Because then that shuttle driver is shown as a driver on road.

    The center is only allowed a certain numbers of drivers on road, usually based on volume. They must meet that number even if they have to lie, cheat and steal.

    You're on ORS and you don't realize that the only thing this Company cares about is a number on a piece of paper.

    They will spend millions if they have to just to achieve that number.

    Case in point. These shuttle drivers. Driving around, setting up meet points, meeting drivers, even though they may not be making driver rate, is costing the Company more money than these shuttle drivers delivering the airs, but that would affect that number on a piece of paper. Hell no.

    You have to maintain that fictional number on a piece of paper, even if you have to cheat to get it.

    And yes, it has gotten worse. Sometimes I feel sorry for you guys, but I didn't force you into supervision. It is far different than it was 20 years ago, maybe even from just 10 years ago.
     
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  15. Jkloc420

    Jkloc420 Well-Known Member

    gas is going down
     
  16. RolloTony Brown Town

    RolloTony Brown Town Active Member

    Who said I don’t realize it? I said it’s stupid. Believe it or not management at all levels see what you see. The difference is you just complain and I have to answer for it.
     
  17. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    I don't complain about it and I do have an answer for it.

    Let the Center Managers do their job and manage.

    It may look good to IE and Corporate on paper, but that's not necessarily the real world.

    A center manager should have been able to make the call and let the shuttle drivers deliver that air and save the Company money.

    He may not have met that number, but he met the Company's number one goal....make money.
     
  18. Oh, i thought it was make service...

    and that makes money.
     
  19. To be fair, our air shuttle runs are coded to feeders. Maybe the carry over with shuttle (miles) gets charged to feeders in some applications?

    When we were told to stop what we were doing every day for 10-15 min and search the load for misloads they told us to code it "approved meeting".

    Heck, we could've charged that to feeders too!:no:
     
  20. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"


    I thought it was "make your numbers" was all that counted. Shove off screw-ups on someone else and let them deal with not making "their" numbers.