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<blockquote data-quote="Jones" data-source="post: 269400" data-attributes="member: 4805"><p>It has nothing to with "what I think". I'm a truck driver, not a scientist. But just to be clear, the supposed correlation we are talking about is not between the "sun and the temperature of the earth", which is obvious. It's between solar activity and the current<em> higher temperatures.</em></p><p>Like I said, I'm not a scientist, so if I want to know the answer I check with people who actually study this stuff.</p><p>I linked this study by <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130503001145/http://www.realclimate.org/damon%26laut_2004.pdf" target="_blank">Peter Laut and colleagues</a> in my earlier post, but I get the impression you didn't bother to read it. It's not very long, and the last graph pretty much sums it all up</p><p></p><p>Here's another paper fom Max Planck:</p><p><em>Although the changes in the two values tend to follow each other for roughly the first 120 years, the Earth’s temperature has risen dramatically in the last 30 years while the solar brightness has not appreciably increased in this time. </em><a href="http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrationsDocumentation/documentation/pressReleases/2004/pressRelease20040802/" target="_blank">click for full article</a></p><p><a href="http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrationsDocumentation/documentation/pressReleases/2004/pressRelease20040802/" target="_blank"></a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again, "I" don't "say" anything. I'm not a scientist and I don't study volcanoes. And once again, noone is saying that they "have no effect". Char said:</p><p>"<strong>1 volcano eruption pruduces more greenhouse gas and effects than all fuel burned in every gas engine ever built combined." </strong></p><p>People who actually do study volcanoes and their effect on the planet have already covered this. I linked a study by the British Geological Survey on precisely this issue, but once again it appears you failed to read it. <a href="http://www.bgs.ac.uk/programmes/landres/segs/downloads/VolcanicContributions.pdf" target="_blank">Here it is again.</a></p><p></p><p>In fact, all the volcanic activity over the entire world for one entire year emits 130-230 teragrams carbon dioxide (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano</a>). In contrast, human activities produce over 7000 teragrams/year. So, volcanoes emit only 3% the amount that humans do.</p><p></p><p>I read over the rest of your post, and while it may or may not be accurate, I'm not sure I see your point. I can't see where it has anything to do with anything I said.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I pointed out that Char has a lot of his "facts" wrong. I honestly have no interest in debating global warming. I'll leave that up to the smarty pants scientists. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jones, post: 269400, member: 4805"] It has nothing to with "what I think". I'm a truck driver, not a scientist. But just to be clear, the supposed correlation we are talking about is not between the "sun and the temperature of the earth", which is obvious. It's between solar activity and the current[I] higher temperatures.[/I] Like I said, I'm not a scientist, so if I want to know the answer I check with people who actually study this stuff. I linked this study by [URL='https://web.archive.org/web/20130503001145/http://www.realclimate.org/damon%26laut_2004.pdf']Peter Laut and colleagues[/URL] in my earlier post, but I get the impression you didn't bother to read it. It's not very long, and the last graph pretty much sums it all up Here's another paper fom Max Planck: [I]Although the changes in the two values tend to follow each other for roughly the first 120 years, the Earth’s temperature has risen dramatically in the last 30 years while the solar brightness has not appreciably increased in this time. [/I][URL='http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrationsDocumentation/documentation/pressReleases/2004/pressRelease20040802/']click for full article [/URL] Once again, "I" don't "say" anything. I'm not a scientist and I don't study volcanoes. And once again, noone is saying that they "have no effect". Char said: "[B]1 volcano eruption pruduces more greenhouse gas and effects than all fuel burned in every gas engine ever built combined." [/B] People who actually do study volcanoes and their effect on the planet have already covered this. I linked a study by the British Geological Survey on precisely this issue, but once again it appears you failed to read it. [URL='http://www.bgs.ac.uk/programmes/landres/segs/downloads/VolcanicContributions.pdf']Here it is again.[/URL] In fact, all the volcanic activity over the entire world for one entire year emits 130-230 teragrams carbon dioxide ([URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano[/URL]). In contrast, human activities produce over 7000 teragrams/year. So, volcanoes emit only 3% the amount that humans do. I read over the rest of your post, and while it may or may not be accurate, I'm not sure I see your point. I can't see where it has anything to do with anything I said. I pointed out that Char has a lot of his "facts" wrong. I honestly have no interest in debating global warming. I'll leave that up to the smarty pants scientists. :wink2: [/QUOTE]
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