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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 270347" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>OK, if you say so.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Is it they freak out over less than 1 degree or have we been conditioned on both sides depending on your political beliefs to have a kneejerk reaction? Hmm! Whatever your side gives I'll always give the opposite and any facts be dam#ed! Is that where we are at? Not picking on you or anyone else, it just appears the nature of the beast in these debates. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I'd be inclined to agree as well but if you read some of the data and what scientists are saying, not the political spin of each side, some of the evidence points to defined cycles of warmer temps and natural occuring releases of CO2 over the last 400k years. If you look at the first link and go to graph b it shows the temps of the Northern Hemisphere for the last 1000 years and what is noticable is a steady rise starting in the early 1900's but then in the 1940's a marked downturn that led the scientific community to suggest a coming ice age in the 1960's and 1970's. In the 1980's a marked upturn back to a rising temp albeit a less then 1 degree as you said. The question that no one has the answer for has to do with is this some odd anamoly that will self correct in short order or a hard trend of human activities an their effects that we need to worry about? For people on the leading edges of science it is a legit and fair question that needs to be asked but I don't think there is a clear answer one way or the other. Some think we shouldn't risk the chance of being wrong and modify human activity and others feel the opposite. Some feel there's no risk either way. It's Vegas and the odds are 50/50 as to who is right in the end! Problem is, in one scenario you may win but really lose and that is what is really driving some folks. But there are others driven for political profit and still others driven to stop those from profitting and that us really the only issue and not about any environmental problems if in fact they do exist.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Man, I'm glad we cleared that up as I was just beside myself worried sick about that!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I'm not so sure about that. The illegals from the south aren't as quick to drop themselves in colder climate areas so hard cold snap might work a lot better than a fence!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p> </p><p>Now we have another reason to hug more trees!!!!!!</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 270347, member: 2189"] OK, if you say so. Is it they freak out over less than 1 degree or have we been conditioned on both sides depending on your political beliefs to have a kneejerk reaction? Hmm! Whatever your side gives I'll always give the opposite and any facts be dam#ed! Is that where we are at? Not picking on you or anyone else, it just appears the nature of the beast in these debates. I'd be inclined to agree as well but if you read some of the data and what scientists are saying, not the political spin of each side, some of the evidence points to defined cycles of warmer temps and natural occuring releases of CO2 over the last 400k years. If you look at the first link and go to graph b it shows the temps of the Northern Hemisphere for the last 1000 years and what is noticable is a steady rise starting in the early 1900's but then in the 1940's a marked downturn that led the scientific community to suggest a coming ice age in the 1960's and 1970's. In the 1980's a marked upturn back to a rising temp albeit a less then 1 degree as you said. The question that no one has the answer for has to do with is this some odd anamoly that will self correct in short order or a hard trend of human activities an their effects that we need to worry about? For people on the leading edges of science it is a legit and fair question that needs to be asked but I don't think there is a clear answer one way or the other. Some think we shouldn't risk the chance of being wrong and modify human activity and others feel the opposite. Some feel there's no risk either way. It's Vegas and the odds are 50/50 as to who is right in the end! Problem is, in one scenario you may win but really lose and that is what is really driving some folks. But there are others driven for political profit and still others driven to stop those from profitting and that us really the only issue and not about any environmental problems if in fact they do exist. Man, I'm glad we cleared that up as I was just beside myself worried sick about that! :wink2: I'm not so sure about that. The illegals from the south aren't as quick to drop themselves in colder climate areas so hard cold snap might work a lot better than a fence! :wink2: Now we have another reason to hug more trees!!!!!! :happy-very::happy-very::happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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