With temps getting colder I was wondering if there is anything officially in the contract, or an arbitration ruling won, that address's the subject of idling the package car during your lunch period and break, or at least permitted to turn on the truck periodically to keep warm? I seem to recall the temperature having to dip below a certain degree before it was permitted, but I could be wrong, thanks.
Idling during lunch
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idrivethetruck
Slow & steady wins the race.
We had a DM several years ago who told us there would be absolutely no idling whatsoever. He told us all in a meeting that he didn't care if we had to eat our lunch in a bathroom in order to stay warm, we weren't going to waste his fuel idling.
Indecisi0n
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I idle for 60 mins if I'm stuck outside. I don't care what the language says.
You've Got Mail
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I'll only idle if I can't feel my lunch with my hands.
idrivethetruck
Slow & steady wins the race.
Sounds like Orion...Shave 10 miles off a route to save a gallon of fuel ($3), but end up paying an extra hour of overtime ($50+).
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
1. Idle as needed to stay warm.
2. Earn $45 per hour on OT the next morning listening to the bitchings and whinings of fat-assed DM in a heated office in regards to said idle time.
3. Repeat as necessary.
Drivers shivering in cold, unheated trucks and peeing in the bushes on their lunch breaks might be the wet dream of UPS management, but it doesn't have to be our reality. Management isn't going to get anywhere in a disciplinary hearing going after you for simply running your heater during freezing weather. Its a pity that all of their hot air cant somehow be stored and saved for later use in the trucks, it would pretty much eliminate the very problem that they are whining so hard about.
2. Earn $45 per hour on OT the next morning listening to the bitchings and whinings of fat-assed DM in a heated office in regards to said idle time.
3. Repeat as necessary.
Drivers shivering in cold, unheated trucks and peeing in the bushes on their lunch breaks might be the wet dream of UPS management, but it doesn't have to be our reality. Management isn't going to get anywhere in a disciplinary hearing going after you for simply running your heater during freezing weather. Its a pity that all of their hot air cant somehow be stored and saved for later use in the trucks, it would pretty much eliminate the very problem that they are whining so hard about.
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In control of own destiny
I really can't believe you guys sit in your truck for lunch. There has to be a diner, a store, truck stop (where I eat) plus free wifi. I can't stand sitting in that thing any longer than I have too.
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In control of own destiny
Even Mc Ronald's or applebees has wifi
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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My condo has Wi-Fi and the coffee is free. Just sayin'.
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In control of own destiny
Yes if you are fortunate enough to live on route. Just sayin '
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
If its freezing outside and you pull off to the side of the road and sit inside the truck for half an hour without the heater on....the windows will fog up and/or freeze over. This will then force you to idle the vehicle once your lunch is over in order to defrost the windows so that you can see well enough to safely drive. So one way or another....there is going to be some idle time. The only question.... is whether it happens on your time or the company's. Once you confront your management team with this simple fact, they will shut up and go find someone else to bother.
What'dyabringmetoday???
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I idle when it's cold. There's nothing they can do. It's already been decided by the international. If someone gives you a hard time file a grievance and man up and call osha. They will wish you didn't open the door to the latter.
Griff
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That's funny because they have no issues keeping the heat in their offices going. I'll stop idling my truck during lunch when the OMS, center managers and division
upstairs get the heat pulled from their offices. It's not his fuel anyway, it's the shareholders (hedge funds) fuel.
10 point
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A lot of our idiot drivers don't sit in the truck where it's cold.
They wait until they've returned to the building at the end of the day and eat it in the OMS office.
And many of them have over 20 yrs seniority driving. Pathetic.
That's what I was wondering. You say it's already been decided by the international, where is that documented? If I get approached I'd like to have a come back, thanks.
