If Ups cuts 4 year progression for ft rcpd how would you vote?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Oceanview, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. Oceanview

    Oceanview Active Member

    Just curious if any one knows how many people are still in there 4 year progression as a rcpd? Maybe 30k or more?

    What if, and I mean a big what if; ups said all current ft rcpd in progression is now top rate.. do you think with that change this current contract would pass??
  2. Mst3k

    Mst3k Active Member

    Top rate does no one any good if they are not guaranteed their hours.
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  3. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    What if UPS didn’t violate the contract daily? What if we raised compensation for management to entice drivers who know the system to make the jump? What if Harry Potter died and Voldemort ruled the world?
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  4. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member

    Don't see it happening so why ask? Like that's real far out there as far as a question.

    My pay would double so I'd vote yes if I was guaranteed at least 2 full days a week hahaha
  5. WTFm8

    WTFm8 Active Member

    Not necisarily UPS tho. Management and supervisors are still just 'employees' and many are ignorant to company policies.

    Most employers have such a high turnover/transfer rate that incoming management is quickly trained by leaving or remaining management and bad habits/incorrect info and contract 'violations' remain in practice.

    Plus former management screwing with production numbers to make theirselves look good for a transfer/promotion/potential termination only screws up incoming by setting up for failure with unrealistic production standards and continuing to have PT supervisors working instead of hiring more potential bargining unit employees.
  6. Oceanview

    Oceanview Active Member

    What I asked isn’t to far out.. IMO I think if they added that in the contract then the contract would probably pass. Just think about it. Ups won’t be hiring any more rcpd after this contract so in 4 years all full time rcpd drivers will be at top rate and and other full time rcpd openings will go to the highest 22.4 driver . So ups offering top rate isn’t to crazy. Just a feeling I have...
  7. Zowert

    Zowert Active Member

    They will still need FT drivers. Just not nearly as many of them. Anyone who got hired on in the last year has joined a dying breed, if this contract gets signed.
  8. Oceanview

    Oceanview Active Member

    I agree it’s a dying breed, so why wouldn’t they let us tie the noose of greed to and around our own necks?
  9. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Asking them to honor the contract is a basic thing they can’t even manage to do.
  10. a911scanner

    a911scanner Active Member

    Still NO. Although it would be very helpful, there are many other problems with this contract.

  11. Yellow11

    Yellow11 New Member

    Obviously this is a dream contract for the company our Union reps must have room temperature IQ’s to think that this is a good deal.
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  12. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    No. Anything with 22.4 language is no
  13. Siveriano

    Siveriano Active Member

    Strike Strike Strike !!!

    weird noone has say this yet
  14. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    I have 3 years left in my progression. As nice as it would be, would still vote no. Need to fix the contract for everyone, not just one group so it slides through.
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  15. The part timers think it's the second coming of Jesus...
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  16. a911scanner

    a911scanner Active Member

    No strike (unless we have to) Just better language in many places. And no 22.4, just hire more FT drivers.
  17. 18% x 30,000 = 5400
    Not enough votes to sink Hog island voters.
  18. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    The contract?
  19. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    How much more money would the company profit from compared to the current one?
  20. Yes. Everyone is going to get an article 22.4 job...