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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3596526" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>[ATTACH=full]199829[/ATTACH] </p><p></p><p>Really wish you folks would stop telling us what we are and are not happy about regarding the proposed contract, and what we are and are not willing to strike over. If you can't actually read what's being written, and actually understand our perspective, then the general public has no hope and it doesn't matter what we write. </p><p></p><p>You low level manager types have the most to lose in the event of a strike, that's why you get on here and try to guilt us into changing our positions. You have no argument, and you refuse to try to understand what we really want. You would stand a better chance of garnering sympathy if you were just honest and told us that you are scared that you will lose your jobs if we strike. But, you really ought to be banding together and sending mass emails to the UPS negotiating team telling them you support your workers, and to tell them what our concerns really are, not just what the teamster negotiators are saying our concerns are. </p><p></p><p>Concerns such as: we aren't concerned about OT, we are concerned about excessive OT, and now with the proposal, we are concerned that we will have no OT. We are concerned about ground drivers making less to deliver ground packages. We are concerned about raises keeping pace with inflation. The strike worry is a two way street. If UPS and the Teamsters actually start hearing us, instead of telling us what we want, and come up with an agreement we can all be happy with, then a strike need not be a concern at all.</p><p></p><p>And an existential threat means a threat to existence, it's not the opposite of "real". That would be "imaginary". And don't blame us drivers for the fact that UPS can't hire competent sales employees. We turn in leads, and they drop the ball. Hell, they can't even keep track of when shipping contracts lapse. SMH.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3596526, member: 63706"] [ATTACH=full]199829[/ATTACH] Really wish you folks would stop telling us what we are and are not happy about regarding the proposed contract, and what we are and are not willing to strike over. If you can't actually read what's being written, and actually understand our perspective, then the general public has no hope and it doesn't matter what we write. You low level manager types have the most to lose in the event of a strike, that's why you get on here and try to guilt us into changing our positions. You have no argument, and you refuse to try to understand what we really want. You would stand a better chance of garnering sympathy if you were just honest and told us that you are scared that you will lose your jobs if we strike. But, you really ought to be banding together and sending mass emails to the UPS negotiating team telling them you support your workers, and to tell them what our concerns really are, not just what the teamster negotiators are saying our concerns are. Concerns such as: we aren't concerned about OT, we are concerned about excessive OT, and now with the proposal, we are concerned that we will have no OT. We are concerned about ground drivers making less to deliver ground packages. We are concerned about raises keeping pace with inflation. The strike worry is a two way street. If UPS and the Teamsters actually start hearing us, instead of telling us what we want, and come up with an agreement we can all be happy with, then a strike need not be a concern at all. And an existential threat means a threat to existence, it's not the opposite of "real". That would be "imaginary". And don't blame us drivers for the fact that UPS can't hire competent sales employees. We turn in leads, and they drop the ball. Hell, they can't even keep track of when shipping contracts lapse. SMH. [/QUOTE]
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