I'm tired of the harassment from my Full-Time Supervisor!

[Top Cat]

First off, I'm a Pre-Loader of 3 years, It'll be 4 this August. Also, I'm on the Safety Committee, I have NO attendance problem, I do my best, and I go home.

I've been dealing with harassment from a Full-Time Supervisor for quite some time. By quite some time, I mean the first experience was in 2015. I went to HR and complained about his disrespect, intimidation, hostility, and towards me. I wrote fact sheets of the experiences and verbal exchanges I had with him, and even wrote them (HR) a letter of my concern. I even went as far as calling Corporate complaint.

I'll admit I had a misload problem back then. But when your full time talks down to you on multiple occasions. Denies you an option day. Then screams at you to get off his dock when all your trying to do is give him a written paper for the option day that was owed to you, it's hard to focus mentally. It got to the point where when peak season was in effect, he put me out in the air docks so we wouldn't be around each other. In a nutshell, I now wear glasses, he got moved to a different box line, and I get a 2 week suspension for misloads.

Time goes by, and it's now August of 2016. We have a new system where we have scanners that all us Pre Loaders use to keep misloads down. And the misload problem for me was dang near non-existent. Not much longer (September) this same Full-Time Supervisor comes back to my box line and I start to worry again.

At first he was cool, but my spirit/vibe didn't sit right because it never felt genuine. And I was right. Now, since I'm not meeting his expectations for the PPH (peices per hour) which for him is 225, he's always getting on me. He calls me lazy, said that my other co-worker are saying the same about me, said I was a bad example for a Safety Committee Member, and threatened to fire me.

He's told me and I quote "I don't care if you don't like me. I am your boss. I don't care if you tell your mom, your dad, or write another letter to HR again." I'm back to square one again, I've complained to my shop steward, and I've complained to HR with fact sheets.

Prior to me calling Corporate complaint again, He was giving me the silent treatment since I went to HR. Last Monday, I come in at the usual 2:30 am, but I noticed that everybody was already working, I was over an hour late to work. I called in Friday since I wasn't feeling good. So I had to idea the start times changed, But he never called me to see if I was coming in or anything. Ironically I go to my area, and guess who's loading my area, my Full-Time Supervisor. I told him I was sorry for being late. He never acknowledged me, and just walks away.

A couple days ago, during wrap up, one of my Part-Time Supervisors decided to stack me out which I'm not fond of at all. Next thing I know my Full-Timer walks down to me has the nerve to ask "why my area looked like this," when I wasn't the one that was even stacking. I told him "I'm doing the best I can." His reply to me was "that's not the answer I'm looking for" and goes to ask me the question again, and again. And I give him the same answer. The last thing I said to him before I shut down was "he's (my Part-Time Supervisor) the one stacking, me out not me." The last thing he said to my Part-Time Supervisor was "see, he's (me) disrespecting you and me." It's like he's trying to make my Part-Time Supervisor not like me when we've never had a problem. Sadly My Part-Time Supervisor just stood there and didn't say one word. This is when I called Corporate Complaint again.

I'm starting to get to the point where I'm not liking this place anymore But I'm still staying strong. Sorry for the long opening post. I just needed to vent.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How many misloads does it take to earn a two week suspension?

 

[Top Cat]

How many misloads does it take to earn a two week suspension?

There wasn't really a specific number. But multiple. Again, I always owned up to my mistakes. It was between that or give me the option to "quit" and it not look bad on my record.

@UpstateNYUPSer

 

[TearsInRain]

document your interactions, file harassment grievances, and call the corporate number any time he does crap like this

HR won't do anything if you complain directly, but they have to follow up on corporate complaints and a harassment grievance paper trail will be useful later

 

[JackOfClubs]

Sounds like my FT sup. Discouraging to see that neither HR nor the union are doing anything about it.

 

[Top Cat]

document your interactions, file harassment grievances, and call the corporate number any time he does crap like this

HR won't do anything if you complain directly, but they have to follow up on corporate complaints and a harassment grievance paper trail will be useful later

@TearsInRain I've definitely been writing everything down. My union is so weak that I think grieving things at this point is useless.

 

[Top Cat]

Sounds like my FT sup. Discouraging to see that neither HR nor the union are doing anything about it.

@JackOfClubs My last resort is the EEOC

 

[TearsInRain]

@TearsInRain I've definitely been writing everything down. My union is so weak that I think grieving things at this point is useless.

harassment grievances are mostly worthless in actually doing anything, but they build a paper trail for corporate and for if you ever want to take this down the legal path

 

[km3]

Next thing I know my Full-Timer walks down to me has the nerve to ask "why my area looked like this," when I wasn't the one that was even stacking. I told him "I'm doing the best I can." His reply to me was "that's not the answer I'm looking for" and goes to ask me the question again, and again. And I give him the same answer. The last thing I said to him before I shut down was "he's (my Part-Time Supervisor) the one stacking, me out not me." The last thing he said to my Part-Time Supervisor was "see, he's (me) disrespecting you and me."

If a supervisor ever asks you the same question multiple times, when you know they heard and understood you clearly the first time, ask for a steward immediately.

There wasn't really a specific number. But multiple. Again, I always owned up to my mistakes. It was between that or give me the option to "quit" and it not look bad on my record.

@UpstateNYUPSer

You're in a union, dude. Unless you were already dead to rights, they can't give you an ultimatum like that. Grieve the discipline, and possibly for harassment at the same time.

Have you filed any complaints with the feds? Workplace harassment isn't just a violation of UPS company policy, it is also illegal. Send them all your grievances, including the ones that didn't go anywhere, copies of the letters, etc., etc..

 

[km3]

@JackOfClubs My last resort is the EEOC

As it should be. And I'd say you've reached that point. Do it.

 

[Top Cat]

If a supervisor ever asks you the same question multiple times, when you know they heard and understood you clearly the first time, ask for a steward immediately.



You're in a union, dude. Unless you were already dead to rights, they can't give you an ultimatum like that. Grieve the discipline, and possibly for harassment at the same time.

Have you filed any complaints with the feds? Workplace harassment isn't just a violation of UPS company policy, it is also illegal. Send them all your grievances, including the ones that didn't go anywhere, copies of the letters, etc., etc..

@Bastiatian This ultimatum was almost 2 years ago... And yes, I'm still piling up on my letters

 

[Mr. Sir]

I swear this is the night of hating FT sups on BC today lol

 

[Brownslave688]

@TearsInRain I've definitely been writing everything down. My union is so weak that I think grieving things at this point is useless.

So all of this and you've filed zero harassment grievances.

 

[km3]

I swear this is the night of hating FT sups on BC today lol

I'm extremely lucky to have pretty good supervisors. I've encountered three or four on a power trip, but most are cool.

 

[Top Cat]

So all of this and you've filed zero harassment grievances.

@Brownslave688 No my HR just tells me to call Corporate complaint

 

[km3]

@Brownslave688 No my HR just tells me to call Corporate complaint

Your first stop should be your steward. If your steward is useless, call the union hall.

 

[Top Cat]

Your first stop should be your steward. If your steward is useless, call the union hall.

So Union Hall before the EEOC?

@Bastiatian

 

[km3]

So Union hall before the EEOC?

Yes and no. Is your steward useless? Have you had any contact whatsoever with your business agent regarding the harassment? I would go through the union first, then HR, then corporate complaint, and then the EEOC. Filing federal complaints is a bit extreme, so it should always be last. But at the same time, it also allows you to accumulate evidence, such as a copy of the letter you wrote HR, grievances, etc.. Like @TearsInRain said, a paper trail.

 

[Top Cat]

@Brownslave688

So are you saying because I haven't filed a grievance for harassment, everything I've done to this point is worthless

 

[trickpony1]

Don't forget OSHA (hostile work environment) and;

NLRB.