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im voting yes, different perspective on the contract
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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3677938" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>You say you are not a shill, so I'll take your word for it. You sure are parroting their arguments though.</p><p></p><p>Some drivers enjoy making the extra money from OT, and, yes, they don't want to lose that possibility. They put in the time, and should have first crack at the extra work over noob 22.4's, because seniority. The people complaining about working over time, and this has been said over and over again, are complaining about forced excessive over time. Some would like 8 hours every day. Drivers are diverse, they are at different points in their careers, they have different goals. Imagine putting in the years, counting on the OT, then have it yanked away to be given to noobs at a much lower rate.</p><p></p><p>Most of us who oppose 22.4 do so because it is a poorly thought out job, devalues ground drivers' labor, they don't have the protections that ground drivers do, they'll work weekends for less money. We are not afraid of the job for our sake, we are trying to protect desperate part timers from being taken in by a scam.</p><p></p><p>If you really believe we just deliver shirts all day, then maybe you aren't actually affiliated with UPS afterall. Or you lied and you <em>are</em> a shill who is trying to downplay the difficulty of the job in a vain attempt to support your untenable position. How about you get over yourself? The other shills on here haven't been successful at changing anyone's mind, and you aren't even as good at shilling as they are.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3677938, member: 63706"] You say you are not a shill, so I'll take your word for it. You sure are parroting their arguments though. Some drivers enjoy making the extra money from OT, and, yes, they don't want to lose that possibility. They put in the time, and should have first crack at the extra work over noob 22.4's, because seniority. The people complaining about working over time, and this has been said over and over again, are complaining about forced excessive over time. Some would like 8 hours every day. Drivers are diverse, they are at different points in their careers, they have different goals. Imagine putting in the years, counting on the OT, then have it yanked away to be given to noobs at a much lower rate. Most of us who oppose 22.4 do so because it is a poorly thought out job, devalues ground drivers' labor, they don't have the protections that ground drivers do, they'll work weekends for less money. We are not afraid of the job for our sake, we are trying to protect desperate part timers from being taken in by a scam. If you really believe we just deliver shirts all day, then maybe you aren't actually affiliated with UPS afterall. Or you lied and you [I]are[/I] a shill who is trying to downplay the difficulty of the job in a vain attempt to support your untenable position. How about you get over yourself? The other shills on here haven't been successful at changing anyone's mind, and you aren't even as good at shilling as they are. [/QUOTE]
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