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<blockquote data-quote="Overpaid Union Thug" data-source="post: 207219" data-attributes="member: 198"><p>Based on the conversations my wife and I have had with many of them I feel comfortable in saying that most of them will come forward. The ones that won't are the minority that have been commiting crimes, in addition to crossing the border, such as theft, drunk driving, murder, etc.. So in a way...the bill would weed out the serious criminals from the the ones that just came here to work. There will also be a few here and there will not come foward due to mistrust of the govt. Some feel that they are being tricked into "comming out of the shadows" just so that INS can deport them. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, everyone knows they broke the law to get here but over 90% did so to work. We are not talking bout an army people that are just here to cause trouble. So, I must say that that 50% assumption is way off. And what ever the small percentage ends up being, and it will be very small, they will not have amnesty. It's not amnesty if they aren't legalized. They will still be subject to deportation if caught. And it's like I said above. Those that don't come forward will be mostly the "bad apples" and it will be easier to catch and deport them as long as people such as the ACLU stay out of the way. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>It's highly unreasonable to send them home or to jail just so we can say that they were punished properly. Especially since most came here to work. It's funny to me because everyone is so passionate about getting rid of these people because they broke the law just to be able to work, yet, no one seems to have a problem with all the welfare scum we have here in the country already. What's there excuse?! My wife risked her life by crossing a desert and dealing with "Coyotes" that rape their "cargo" and sometimes kill them, not to mention worrying about the crooked Mexican Army, just to be able to get here to work and we have people that live within walking distance of jobs, yet, they supposedly can't find a job? LOL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They got screwed in 1986 too. The problem I have with the immigration system is that it obviously doesn't allow for enough lower tier laborers to come in. I say obviously because that's what most of the illegals are doing. My wife could get screwed. We are trying to fix her status without waiting on the current immigration bill to pass. If it was to pass while she is in Mexico waiting to come back then that would be a little frustrating. It's hard to decide whether ot not to wait ot press ahead on our own. The old schoolway. LOL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I must say I agree but I don't think that allowing the ones that are already here to stay and work is going to destroy this country. I belive that the border must be secured to keep more from comming in. Workers or not there will be too many if they continue to stream across. Plus, you never know who is piggy back riding in with them. Terrorists? I honestly believe that the true threat to this country, as far as immigrants are concerned, are the legal immigrants. Our govt. let's too many people in here legally that seem to have an agenda against this country. Terrorists that come here legally and over stay their visas, therefore being illegal, are the ones that concern me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Overpaid Union Thug, post: 207219, member: 198"] Based on the conversations my wife and I have had with many of them I feel comfortable in saying that most of them will come forward. The ones that won't are the minority that have been commiting crimes, in addition to crossing the border, such as theft, drunk driving, murder, etc.. So in a way...the bill would weed out the serious criminals from the the ones that just came here to work. There will also be a few here and there will not come foward due to mistrust of the govt. Some feel that they are being tricked into "comming out of the shadows" just so that INS can deport them. Yes, everyone knows they broke the law to get here but over 90% did so to work. We are not talking bout an army people that are just here to cause trouble. So, I must say that that 50% assumption is way off. And what ever the small percentage ends up being, and it will be very small, they will not have amnesty. It's not amnesty if they aren't legalized. They will still be subject to deportation if caught. And it's like I said above. Those that don't come forward will be mostly the "bad apples" and it will be easier to catch and deport them as long as people such as the ACLU stay out of the way. It's highly unreasonable to send them home or to jail just so we can say that they were punished properly. Especially since most came here to work. It's funny to me because everyone is so passionate about getting rid of these people because they broke the law just to be able to work, yet, no one seems to have a problem with all the welfare scum we have here in the country already. What's there excuse?! My wife risked her life by crossing a desert and dealing with "Coyotes" that rape their "cargo" and sometimes kill them, not to mention worrying about the crooked Mexican Army, just to be able to get here to work and we have people that live within walking distance of jobs, yet, they supposedly can't find a job? LOL. They got screwed in 1986 too. The problem I have with the immigration system is that it obviously doesn't allow for enough lower tier laborers to come in. I say obviously because that's what most of the illegals are doing. My wife could get screwed. We are trying to fix her status without waiting on the current immigration bill to pass. If it was to pass while she is in Mexico waiting to come back then that would be a little frustrating. It's hard to decide whether ot not to wait ot press ahead on our own. The old schoolway. LOL. I must say I agree but I don't think that allowing the ones that are already here to stay and work is going to destroy this country. I belive that the border must be secured to keep more from comming in. Workers or not there will be too many if they continue to stream across. Plus, you never know who is piggy back riding in with them. Terrorists? I honestly believe that the true threat to this country, as far as immigrants are concerned, are the legal immigrants. Our govt. let's too many people in here legally that seem to have an agenda against this country. Terrorists that come here legally and over stay their visas, therefore being illegal, are the ones that concern me. [/QUOTE]
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