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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 3007162" data-attributes="member: 66082"><p>Lol, of course it has no relevance. This is a message board about UPS. I am a refinery worker expressing my thoughts. So yes big picture, this is irrelevant.</p><p></p><p>But it still doesn't change that Trump's goal wasn't to pass immigration legislation. </p><p></p><p>So here is the thing, supposedly conservatives want something done on immigration, something other than the status quo, yet Trump isn't going to do anything, but maintain the status quo on immigration. </p><p></p><p>Trump will make the lives of some immigrants more difficult with ICE, but while those stories are tragic, and I think will eventually produce a horrifying violent tragedy and probably generate some future lawsuits, those ICE raids, don't fundamentally change anything. And Trump isn't going to deliver on immigration. He is just pretending, literally thinking, I need to signal to my supporters that I still hate Mexicans and Muslims even as I do nothing. Just like his travel ban is symbolic and an utter failure. None of this stuff actually represents a change, it is just all for show.</p><p></p><p>The ACA was a change, the Stimulus was a change, Saving the auto industry was a change, ending the Iraq war was change, Passing Dodd Frank was a change, ending DADT was a change, the Iran nuclear deal was a change. These things are lasting and had a huge impact on this nation.</p><p></p><p>Trump is just pretending he isn't doing much except for mostly irrelevant symbolic stuff supposedly since he was elected to enact policy that should matter to his supporters, he is an utter failure so far and he is playing president, not actually performing the job.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 3007162, member: 66082"] Lol, of course it has no relevance. This is a message board about UPS. I am a refinery worker expressing my thoughts. So yes big picture, this is irrelevant. But it still doesn't change that Trump's goal wasn't to pass immigration legislation. So here is the thing, supposedly conservatives want something done on immigration, something other than the status quo, yet Trump isn't going to do anything, but maintain the status quo on immigration. Trump will make the lives of some immigrants more difficult with ICE, but while those stories are tragic, and I think will eventually produce a horrifying violent tragedy and probably generate some future lawsuits, those ICE raids, don't fundamentally change anything. And Trump isn't going to deliver on immigration. He is just pretending, literally thinking, I need to signal to my supporters that I still hate Mexicans and Muslims even as I do nothing. Just like his travel ban is symbolic and an utter failure. None of this stuff actually represents a change, it is just all for show. The ACA was a change, the Stimulus was a change, Saving the auto industry was a change, ending the Iraq war was change, Passing Dodd Frank was a change, ending DADT was a change, the Iran nuclear deal was a change. These things are lasting and had a huge impact on this nation. Trump is just pretending he isn't doing much except for mostly irrelevant symbolic stuff supposedly since he was elected to enact policy that should matter to his supporters, he is an utter failure so far and he is playing president, not actually performing the job. [/QUOTE]
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