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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thebrownblob" data-source="post: 6118089" data-attributes="member: 60485">Well, I’m pretty sure Russia has held back quite a bit, but that’s beside the point. Ukraine is not. capable of securing their own borders without money and weapons for others. If they in fact, had some sort of usefulness to us, it would make sense for us to do that, but since they do not, I do not believe we should be giving them anything. Somehow, now they have become our dependent. With no benefit to us.This is just reality. It’s nothing personal. It’s not a responsibility we should be and it’s clear by the way Zielinski has been acting. He feels entitled.</blockquote>