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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thebrownblob" data-source="post: 6118094" data-attributes="member: 60485">And they don’t care? The problem is the people were supposed to be supporting or no better than the Russian government. They don’t care about their people either. They don’t care about elections. They don’t care about jailing their political enemies. They don’t care about taking over the media in their country.I’m really curious what you think we taught Russia.They’re not giving the land nor never will.There’s really no guarantees at this point Russia just doesn’t take all of Ukraine.The whole problem with this war is there there’s never been any logical endpoint, only the desire by crazy people who pretend they’re going to teach Vladimir Putin lesson. The best and the absolute best we could hope for is it stops now.</blockquote>