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<blockquote data-quote="Benben" data-source="post: 818026" data-attributes="member: 25133"><p>"There was a lot of problems when some drivers did not enter the building and started either heading back to their cars or heading to our meet point without using designated walk paths. The safety people were going nuts demanding they enter the building and then exit again using the correct walk path. I simply told them I was heading to my car and if there was a problem, talk to me on the clock. My question is, I know it is their property but how does an employee handle this? They dont own me til I clock in and I will not acknowledge their commands til I am on the clock."--tourists24</p><p> </p><p>-->Reading comprehension for the lose!! I'll try to explain it to you. The OP was in the building when one of the sorts or centers in his building ran a scheduled drill, a required drill for UPS as well as for Ketter and thus OSHA. The OP made a conscience decision (because he wasn't "on the clock yet") to ignore yard safety and leave either through an over-head door and/or walk outside the walk path. He then gets bent out of shape because the safety crew forced him to pull his head out of his arse and redo it correctly even though he wasn't "on the clock."</p><p> </p><p>I guess I don't see it the way you do. In my mind, if an idiot is dumb enough or is so lazy as to ignore required safety proceedures just because he hasn't "timed in yet" then he should be treated like my 10 year old and be made to do it again correctly. Show me where in the rules it says, "staying within designated walk paths unless you are the OP and off the clock," or, "entering/exiting the building through pedestrian doors unless you happen to be the OP who is not on the clock yet!"</p><p> </p><p>He should be disciplined for failure to follow safety proceedures, <u><strong>proceedures in place to protect him</strong></u>. If an employee can not follow simple, very clear, safety rules that even a 10 year old can perform, then maybe he should be flipping burgers somewhere or go get himself a job as a Walmart Greeter. Do you believe that we, as UPSers, are so extra special that we should be allowed to pick and choose which safety rules we will follow and which ones we can just blow off/ignore depending on our status with respect to being, "on the clock" or not? I have 50 cents here in my pocket, would you care to buy yourself a clue?</p><p> </p><p>The OP is obviously a sad little man talking about "owning me" and "acknowledging their commands." He obviously hates his job. Life is too short to not like what one does for a living. Go find something to do that makes you happy. I don't understand people that insist on living small, angry lives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Benben, post: 818026, member: 25133"] "There was a lot of problems when some drivers did not enter the building and started either heading back to their cars or heading to our meet point without using designated walk paths. The safety people were going nuts demanding they enter the building and then exit again using the correct walk path. I simply told them I was heading to my car and if there was a problem, talk to me on the clock. My question is, I know it is their property but how does an employee handle this? They dont own me til I clock in and I will not acknowledge their commands til I am on the clock."--tourists24 -->Reading comprehension for the lose!! I'll try to explain it to you. The OP was in the building when one of the sorts or centers in his building ran a scheduled drill, a required drill for UPS as well as for Ketter and thus OSHA. The OP made a conscience decision (because he wasn't "on the clock yet") to ignore yard safety and leave either through an over-head door and/or walk outside the walk path. He then gets bent out of shape because the safety crew forced him to pull his head out of his arse and redo it correctly even though he wasn't "on the clock." I guess I don't see it the way you do. In my mind, if an idiot is dumb enough or is so lazy as to ignore required safety proceedures just because he hasn't "timed in yet" then he should be treated like my 10 year old and be made to do it again correctly. Show me where in the rules it says, "staying within designated walk paths unless you are the OP and off the clock," or, "entering/exiting the building through pedestrian doors unless you happen to be the OP who is not on the clock yet!" He should be disciplined for failure to follow safety proceedures, [U][B]proceedures in place to protect him[/B][/U]. If an employee can not follow simple, very clear, safety rules that even a 10 year old can perform, then maybe he should be flipping burgers somewhere or go get himself a job as a Walmart Greeter. Do you believe that we, as UPSers, are so extra special that we should be allowed to pick and choose which safety rules we will follow and which ones we can just blow off/ignore depending on our status with respect to being, "on the clock" or not? I have 50 cents here in my pocket, would you care to buy yourself a clue? The OP is obviously a sad little man talking about "owning me" and "acknowledging their commands." He obviously hates his job. Life is too short to not like what one does for a living. Go find something to do that makes you happy. I don't understand people that insist on living small, angry lives. [/QUOTE]
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