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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 141926" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>And on the issue of nukes. Is it possible that some terrorist could conduct some kind of nuke terrorist act on American society? Oh yeah, no argument from me on that but let's look at what happens if it does.</p><p></p><p>Let's say some terrorist faction does introduce a nuke device into American society. So what is the response? I'll bet you dollars to donuts that the vast majority and I mean vast majority would scream, demand, support and likely get a very swift nuclear response on responsible or connected parties. If say for example that a member of Hezbollah which is linked to State backing by both Syria and Iran and is a mostly Shia' group (you can't type she-ite because the profanity monitor kills it) were to be behind such an act, what would the american people demand? Look above at any122's post and he/she got it dead on the money except for one little detail. The bomb or likely bombs would be in the form of a huge mushroom cloud and these other groups know this.</p><p></p><p>It's not to say that in some case they (the terrorsit)wouldn't do it but I think it would be as result of them facing a no-win scenario so "let's take em' with us as we go" mentality. The leadership of these groups aren't suicidial as many of their bottomline shock troops are trained to be, pawns of a sick mind IMO, but who's to say what they do if backed into a corner.</p><p></p><p>What happens to President Nutjob of North Korea if he decides to pop one on the west? Goodbye North Korea! Remember, the US is the only country in the history of man to use such a destructive weapon and we did it twice and the world is oh so fearful that we will do it again. And guess what? They are absolutely right. You can bet your last dollar that if something of this magnitude ever happens on US soil, somebody is gonna glow for it!</p><p></p><p>And under the right conditions don't for one minute think that Mecca on it's most high holy day with gazillions of pilgrims on hand would be safe if the right conditions existed. It may seem cold and aweful to think of Americans in this light but I'll leave you with these famous words to consider that point of what Americans will do when pushed to the limit.</p><p></p><p>"I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant</p><p>and filled him with a terrible resolve</p><p>Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto</p><p>Empire of JapanDecember 7th, 1941</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ask Yamamoto how that resolve manifested itself in August of 1945'? BTW: That was democrats who did that and it was their greatest President who brought this thing into being so that Truman would have that option! Never forget that.</p><p></p><p>BTW Any122: Israel is not without it's own warts. It's own birth in 1948' was as much from acts of terrorism as anything else. Consider just one event of many from July 1946'</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing" target="_blank">King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p></p><p>Goes to show that what starts as acts of terror yesterday comes into today as revered and in some sense Godlike! What will history say of Atta and WTC on 9/11 100 years from now? Scary thought is it not!</p><p></p><p>Also an interesting timeline from 1980' forward concerning US/Iraq relations. </p><p><a href="http://www.casi.org.uk/info/usdocs/usiraq80s90s.html#two" target="_blank">U.S. Diplomatic and Commercial Relationships with Iraq, 1980 - 2 August 1990</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 141926, member: 2189"] And on the issue of nukes. Is it possible that some terrorist could conduct some kind of nuke terrorist act on American society? Oh yeah, no argument from me on that but let's look at what happens if it does. Let's say some terrorist faction does introduce a nuke device into American society. So what is the response? I'll bet you dollars to donuts that the vast majority and I mean vast majority would scream, demand, support and likely get a very swift nuclear response on responsible or connected parties. If say for example that a member of Hezbollah which is linked to State backing by both Syria and Iran and is a mostly Shia' group (you can't type she-ite because the profanity monitor kills it) were to be behind such an act, what would the american people demand? Look above at any122's post and he/she got it dead on the money except for one little detail. The bomb or likely bombs would be in the form of a huge mushroom cloud and these other groups know this. It's not to say that in some case they (the terrorsit)wouldn't do it but I think it would be as result of them facing a no-win scenario so "let's take em' with us as we go" mentality. The leadership of these groups aren't suicidial as many of their bottomline shock troops are trained to be, pawns of a sick mind IMO, but who's to say what they do if backed into a corner. What happens to President Nutjob of North Korea if he decides to pop one on the west? Goodbye North Korea! Remember, the US is the only country in the history of man to use such a destructive weapon and we did it twice and the world is oh so fearful that we will do it again. And guess what? They are absolutely right. You can bet your last dollar that if something of this magnitude ever happens on US soil, somebody is gonna glow for it! And under the right conditions don't for one minute think that Mecca on it's most high holy day with gazillions of pilgrims on hand would be safe if the right conditions existed. It may seem cold and aweful to think of Americans in this light but I'll leave you with these famous words to consider that point of what Americans will do when pushed to the limit. "I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto Empire of JapanDecember 7th, 1941 Ask Yamamoto how that resolve manifested itself in August of 1945'? BTW: That was democrats who did that and it was their greatest President who brought this thing into being so that Truman would have that option! Never forget that. BTW Any122: Israel is not without it's own warts. It's own birth in 1948' was as much from acts of terrorism as anything else. Consider just one event of many from July 1946' [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing']King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL] Goes to show that what starts as acts of terror yesterday comes into today as revered and in some sense Godlike! What will history say of Atta and WTC on 9/11 100 years from now? Scary thought is it not! Also an interesting timeline from 1980' forward concerning US/Iraq relations. [URL='http://www.casi.org.uk/info/usdocs/usiraq80s90s.html#two']U.S. Diplomatic and Commercial Relationships with Iraq, 1980 - 2 August 1990[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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