Irregs

Justaloader · Nov 21, 2019

rod said:
send it

Amazing that for 3 minutes no other packages were on that belt. That happens in our hub and management loses their damn minds. We can't have belts empty and or shut down for more than a minute. Any longer than that, people raise eyebrows, use the radios as if it's their own personal radio station and they are the jockey, etc.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Nov 21, 2019

Justaloader said:
Amazing that for 3 minutes no other packages were on that belt. That happens in our hub and management loses their damn minds. We can't have belts empty and or shut down for more than a minute. Any longer than that, people raise eyebrows, use the radios as if it's their own personal radio station and they are the jockey, etc.

Suppose it were your conveyor belt with your employees on the line------would you tolerate any down time in which those employees were idly standing by?

Integrity · Nov 21, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Suppose it were your conveyor belt with your employees on the line------would you tolerate any down time in which those employees were idly standing by?

To chime in on this reply.

For me it really would depend on the circumstances of the moment.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Nov 21, 2019

Integrity said:
To chime in on this reply.

For me it really would depend on the circumstances of the moment.

Fair enough----let's assume it was not mechanical failure.

Integrity · Nov 21, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Fair enough----let's assume it was not mechanical failure.

While working employees should always be giving a reasonable effort.

I believe in principle of "fair days work for a fair days pay".

I do not believe in the "sense of urgency" concept many management at UPS try to preach.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Nov 21, 2019

Integrity said:
While working employees should always be giving a reasonable effort.

I believe in principle of "fair days work for a fair days pay".

I do not believe in the "sense of urgency" concept many management at UPS try to preach.

So rather than using the downtime to go through their cars to look for misloads you are OK with them standing around playing with their iPhones?

PTPeanuts · Nov 21, 2019

Justaloader said:
Amazing that for 3 minutes no other packages were on that belt. That happens in our hub and management loses their damn minds. We can't have belts empty and or shut down for more than a minute. Any longer than that, people raise eyebrows, use the radios as if it's their own personal radio station and they are the jockey, etc.

More than a minute?
If our belt is down for more than 10 seconds sup is turning it back on.

Justaloader · Nov 21, 2019

PTPeanuts said:
More than a minute?
If our belt is down for more than 10 seconds sup is turning it back on.

Interesting. In our hub, only person that can turn a belt back on is the person that shut it down. When I'm doing the pickoff, I have the ability to shut down the "main" belt, and a few feeder belts that lead to different doors. If I shut down the main, it's 99% of the time due to jam that someone has to physically get up on the belt to break. I watch that person, make sure they are back off the belt, and turn it back on. In that sense, if I shut the belt off, hopped up to clear a jam and in the process of doing so had the belt turned back on by a sup? That sup would lose their job on the spot. (We've already had people fired by the district manager for walking on belts that were running).

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Nov 21, 2019

Justaloader said:
Interesting. In our hub, only person that can turn a belt back on is the person that shut it down. When I'm doing the pickoff, I have the ability to shut down the "main" belt, and a few feeder belts that lead to different doors. If I shut down the main, it's 99% of the time due to jam that someone has to physically get up on the belt to break. I watch that person, make sure they are back off the belt, and turn it back on. In that sense, if I shut the belt off, hopped up to clear a jam and in the process of doing so had the belt turned back on by a sup? That sup would lose their job on the spot. (We've already had people fired by the district manager for walking on belts that were running).

You are confusing lock out and shutting down the belt to clear a jam.

BMW-----Breaking Jams, Moving Diverters, Walking Off Belts

Justaloader · Nov 22, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
You are confusing lock out and shutting down the belt to clear a jam.

BMW-----Breaking Jams, Moving Diverters, Walking Off Belts

No, I'm not. We aren't allowed to lock out a belt. We are only allowed to shut them down / stop them temporarily.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Nov 22, 2019

Justaloader said:
No, I'm not. We aren't allowed to lock out a belt. We are only allowed to shut them down / stop them temporarily.

Lock out requires that the person who shut off the belt be the only one who can turn it back on. Simply shutting off the belt does not have the same requirement.

Integrity · Nov 22, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
So rather than using the downtime to go through their cars to look for misloads you are OK with them standing around playing with their iPhones?

If that is your understanding of my comment then I guess so.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Nov 22, 2019

Integrity said:
If that is your understanding of my comment then I guess so.

Where were you going with it?

Integrity · Nov 22, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
You are confusing lock out and shutting down the belt to clear a jam.

BMW-----Breaking Jams, Moving Diverters, Walking Off Belts

Disagree.

542thruNthru · Nov 22, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Lock out requires that the person who shut off the belt be the only one who can turn it back on. Simply shutting off the belt does not have the same requirement.

Yes it does. It's a safety issue.

Integrity · Nov 22, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Lock out requires that the person who shut off the belt be the only one who can turn it back on. Simply shutting off the belt does not have the same requirement.

There seems to be a little confusion regarding the difference between Lockout and Conveyor Securing Procedures.

Integrity · Nov 22, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Where were you going with it?

It was a stand alone statement.

542thruNthru · Nov 22, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Lock out requires that the person who shut off the belt be the only one who can turn it back on. Simply shutting off the belt does not have the same requirement.

You have to know how to load them to know what you're talking about.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Nov 22, 2019

Conveyor securing means shutting off the belt, flipping the thing over the start/stop button and locking it. You are correct in that the person who secured the belt is the only one who can unsecure it.

542thruNthru · Nov 22, 2019

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Conveyor securing means shutting off the belt, flipping the thing over the start/stop button and locking it. You are correct in that the person who secured the belt is the only one who can unsecure it.

Yes we know that.

So now you remember that only the person that shut off the belt can restart it?

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