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<blockquote data-quote="diesel96" data-source="post: 220600" data-attributes="member: 9859"><p>Big A>Umm..targeting the wrong enemy? Al-Qeda is in Iraq too! </p><p> </p><p><em>Hmm..lets see.. Al-qaida makes up about 5% of the insurgents in Iraq.</em></p><p><em>Facing eroding support for his Iraq policy, even among Republicans, President Bush on Thursday called al Qaida “the main enemy” in Iraq, a statement rejected by his administration’s senior intelligence analysts.</em></p><p><em>The reference, in a major speech at the Naval War College that referred to al Qaida at least 27 times, seemed calculated to use lingering outrage over the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, to bolster support for the current buildup of U.S. troops in Iraq, despite evidence that sending more troops hasn’t reduced the violence or sped Iraqi government action on key issues.</em></p><p>It amazes me how this simple-minded ploy - repeating something over and over again in order to make it easier to believe - works so well. The Big Lie is still a powerful tool, and so is the Little Myth, as long as it’s repeated endlessly.</p><p> </p><p>quote=Sammie>When I hear about “exit plans” I feel our stand on human rights and charitable groups has taken a pass on <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Iraq</span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> and I’d like to know wish why. </span></p><p>We can’t pull out, we can’t lose this war, and our involvement will be with more than one country over there -And for those of you who want to wash your hands and go home, do you know what that would mean.</p><p></p><p> </p><p><strong>Iraq</strong> Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki shrugged off U.S. doubts of his government's military and political progress Saturday, saying Iraqi forces are capable and American troops can leave "anytime they want."</p><p>Quote=Maliki>"We say in full confidence that we are able, God willing, to take the responsibility completely in running the security file if the international forces withdraw at anytime they want," he said.</p><p> </p><p>Charitable groups and Human rights Org can replace our American Troops instead or maybe some financial support(would be cheaper than $10 billon a month).</p><p>Now you talk about losing a war.How do you lose a Civil War thats not being fought on your homeland?Our brave soldiers went in,dethroned the old regime,instituted a new regime,destroyed infrastructure,help rebuild,now Prime Minister says you can go now!...."Lets Roll".</p><p> Conservative rheteric banging everybody on the head... "pull out means lose the war" and " Iraq is full of Al-Qaeda "is just a bad excuse to remain there for political and logistical purposes.</p><p> </p><p>Do I know what it means if we pull out? YES..How about:</p><p>10 Billon a month or 750 Billon since we invaded Iraq.Rebuilding our credibility in the worldwide picture that this Lying Neo-Conservative Administration has bestowed upon us.</p><p>Imagine the Humanitarian/charitable aide around the world and at home,funding research and development,education,cancer and disease,transportation,energy,etc..etc.Lead by example,thats how a Superpower is suppose to act....lesson the enemy not increase.</p><p>Do you know how many mouths you can feed and water with 750 billion?</p><p> </p><p>quote>Sammie=Why haven’t some of our larger American cities offered to make <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Baghdad</span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> a </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Sister </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">City </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">and lend a hand that way? God knows we’re helping everybody else in the world:</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I would'nt go out on a limb and say were helping everyone else,we could do better....This Administration could'nt even help our own people..Example:Katrina debacle.Why are there SO many private organizations in the US and around the world literally begging for donations to feed/clothe/vaccinate/educate</span><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"> third world countries.Generally when disater strikes around the world the US should be there..and lead by example.</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">quote=sammie>If every room in your house was infested with termites, would you have only one of those rooms fumigated? </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">And what if the termites lived and hid amongst your pets in the house,and the pets could'nt leave the house.</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Should we carpet bomb the house anyway?The Conservative way!</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diesel96, post: 220600, member: 9859"] Big A>Umm..targeting the wrong enemy? Al-Qeda is in Iraq too! [I]Hmm..lets see.. Al-qaida makes up about 5% of the insurgents in Iraq.[/I] [I]Facing eroding support for his Iraq policy, even among Republicans, President Bush on Thursday called al Qaida “the main enemy” in Iraq, a statement rejected by his administration’s senior intelligence analysts.[/I] [I]The reference, in a major speech at the Naval War College that referred to al Qaida at least 27 times, seemed calculated to use lingering outrage over the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, to bolster support for the current buildup of U.S. troops in Iraq, despite evidence that sending more troops hasn’t reduced the violence or sped Iraqi government action on key issues.[/I] It amazes me how this simple-minded ploy - repeating something over and over again in order to make it easier to believe - works so well. The Big Lie is still a powerful tool, and so is the Little Myth, as long as it’s repeated endlessly. quote=Sammie>When I hear about “exit plans” I feel our stand on human rights and charitable groups has taken a pass on [FONT=Verdana]Iraq[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] and I’d like to know wish why. [/FONT] We can’t pull out, we can’t lose this war, and our involvement will be with more than one country over there -And for those of you who want to wash your hands and go home, do you know what that would mean. [B]Iraq[/B] Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki shrugged off U.S. doubts of his government's military and political progress Saturday, saying Iraqi forces are capable and American troops can leave "anytime they want." Quote=Maliki>"We say in full confidence that we are able, God willing, to take the responsibility completely in running the security file if the international forces withdraw at anytime they want," he said. Charitable groups and Human rights Org can replace our American Troops instead or maybe some financial support(would be cheaper than $10 billon a month). Now you talk about losing a war.How do you lose a Civil War thats not being fought on your homeland?Our brave soldiers went in,dethroned the old regime,instituted a new regime,destroyed infrastructure,help rebuild,now Prime Minister says you can go now!...."Lets Roll". Conservative rheteric banging everybody on the head... "pull out means lose the war" and " Iraq is full of Al-Qaeda "is just a bad excuse to remain there for political and logistical purposes. Do I know what it means if we pull out? YES..How about: 10 Billon a month or 750 Billon since we invaded Iraq.Rebuilding our credibility in the worldwide picture that this Lying Neo-Conservative Administration has bestowed upon us. Imagine the Humanitarian/charitable aide around the world and at home,funding research and development,education,cancer and disease,transportation,energy,etc..etc.Lead by example,thats how a Superpower is suppose to act....lesson the enemy not increase. Do you know how many mouths you can feed and water with 750 billion? quote>Sammie=Why haven’t some of our larger American cities offered to make [FONT=Verdana]Baghdad[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] a [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]Sister [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]City [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]and lend a hand that way? God knows we’re helping everybody else in the world:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I would'nt go out on a limb and say were helping everyone else,we could do better....This Administration could'nt even help our own people..Example:Katrina debacle.Why are there SO many private organizations in the US and around the world literally begging for donations to feed/clothe/vaccinate/educate[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma] third world countries.Generally when disater strikes around the world the US should be there..and lead by example.[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]quote=sammie>If every room in your house was infested with termites, would you have only one of those rooms fumigated? [/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]And what if the termites lived and hid amongst your pets in the house,and the pets could'nt leave the house.[/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma]Should we carpet bomb the house anyway?The Conservative way! [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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