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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1403773" data-attributes="member: 17969">You hit the nail on the head.  These people dont want to look back at how all this starts.  They would rather ignore the obvious and attempt to create scenarios where they can blame Obama for todays woes.The Project for the new american century began in 1996 with Bill Kristol calling for the destabilization of Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran and our ultimate involvement with our military.This policy started with REAGAN arming the Mujihadeen, led by none other than Usama Bin Laden after he was brought to the united states and trained and Langley Virginia.  His host?  DICK CHENEY.The funding and arming of Bin Laden in a secret proxy war costing americans near a trillion dollars ended up creating both the TALIBAN and AL Qaeda.  Both had heavy arms, both had endless ammo and rifles and small arms.Reagan, selling arms to Israel, who sold them to Egypt, who sold them to the saudis, who sold them to the Pakistanis who transferred them to the Taliban/Mujihadeen. Republican Charlie Wilson in "Operation Cyclone" sent HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars in arms and cash to AL QAEDA/TALIBAN.When the russians left afghanistan after losing over 15000 soldiers, what was left?? Two well armed terror groups with american weaponry.  Fresh with millions of dollars in cash, and cut off from the united states treasury when Reagan was busted with arms for hostages, and the busting of Ollie Norths illegal gun running operations around the world, these groups turned to the international gun market for more weapons.The TALIBAN, after kicking out Usama Bin laden, came to the white house to meet with REAGAN, and REAGAN called them the equivilent of "our founding fathers".  How wrong did that turn out for the united states?<img src="http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/6054/reagantaliban1985.jpg#Ronald%20Reagan%20meeting%20with%20the%20Taliban%20485x237" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" />Two terror groups formed after being armed and trained by REAGAN.Moving forward, PNAC wanted the middle east unstable, so the military might of the USA would be used and funded to levels never heard of in modern times.They got their wish when they destabilized Libya and started a civil war that ultimately ended with our ambassador killed with american weapons.  We armed the militants opposing Kadafy and helped to create the now terror group LIFG, or Libyan Islamic Fighting group.  They destabilized Egypt ousting Mobarek, and having an election, only to not like the outcome and destabilizing Egypt again causing another civil conflict resulting in thousands of civilian deaths.  The muslim brotherhood then took power.IN Syria, at the behest of ISRAEL, we destabilized SYRIA, calling for the removal of Assad and creating another civil uprising. We secretly armed the "rebels" to fight Assad only to create ISIS/ISIL.IN IRAQ, the KURDS are asking for heavy weapons, small weapons, heavy vehicles and surface to air missiles.  The complaint from FOX news talking heads is that we need to give these things to them.Problem?The Kurds want to separate from IRAQ and create their own country, and without weapons, they cant do so, so once they are ARMED to the teeth, they will then fight the iraqi goverment and attempt to create a separate country.This will destablize IRAQ once again and place us in the middle of another shooting war.The kurdish minister was just on fox news and briefly went off script on brent baiers show, calling for a kurdish country.We create all the MONSTERS in the world.GUNS and CASH.  The Project for the new american century got its wish.  The middle east was destabilized, and now our military has to attempt to fix it all at a cost of trillions of dollars that this country doesnt have.Unfortunately, people like moreluck, oldgray, island, brownstuff , AV8 and the like dont have the first clue as to how all this stuff happens.TOS.</blockquote>

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