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<blockquote data-quote="BrownFlush" data-source="post: 4176990" data-attributes="member: 65823"><p>Me too. It's done all time.</p><p></p><p>“O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends) those outside your religion (pagans, <a href="http://www.humanreligions.info/judaism.html" target="_blank">Jews</a>, <a href="http://www.humanreligions.info/christianity.html" target="_blank">Christians</a>, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you.”</p><p><a href="http://www.holybooks.info/sura_3.html" target="_blank">Qur'an 3:118</a></p><p>Mohsin Khan translation</p><p>“Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme.”</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.holybooks.info/sura_2.html" target="_blank">Qur'an 2:193</a></p><p>N. J. Dawood translation in</p><p>"<em><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0140449205/65536-21" target="_blank">The Koran</a></em>" (Penguin Books)</p><p>The <a href="http://www.holybooks.info/quran.html" target="_blank">Qur'an</a> contains detailed instructions and examples of how to meet unbelievers. The <a href="http://www.holybooks.info/quran.html" target="_blank">Qur'an</a> states categorically that <a href="http://www.humanreligions.info/islam.html" target="_blank">Muslims</a> cannot have non-believers as friends, advisors, consultants or protectors (<a href="http://www.holybooks.info/sura_3.html" target="_blank">Qur'an 3:118</a>and <a href="http://www.holybooks.info/sura_4.html" target="_blank">4:144</a>). If a <a href="http://www.humanreligions.info/islam.html" target="_blank">Muslims</a> wife is, or becomes, a disbeliever, the marriage can be discontinued and the dowries paid for them can be demanded back (<a href="http://www.holybooks.info/sura_60.html" target="_blank">Qur'an 60:10</a>). The second instruction is that unbelievers should be called to <a href="http://www.humanreligions.info/islam.html" target="_blank">Islam</a>; in fact, the <a href="http://www.holybooks.info/quran.html" target="_blank">Qur'an</a> says you cannot wage war against unbelievers <em>until</em> you have preached to them. The third instruction is that if they do not convert to <a href="http://www.humanreligions.info/islam.html" target="_blank">Islam</a>, then, they must be fought. The fourth instruction is that if they surrender, or convert, then you must stop waging war. If they do not convert or surrender, then they must be killed. This is the optimum route for Islamist expansion: A tidal wave of war, subjugation and conversion.</p><p></p><p>No misquotes here Newfman. Just quotes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownFlush, post: 4176990, member: 65823"] Me too. It's done all time. “O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends) those outside your religion (pagans, [URL='http://www.humanreligions.info/judaism.html']Jews[/URL], [URL='http://www.humanreligions.info/christianity.html']Christians[/URL], and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you.” [URL='http://www.holybooks.info/sura_3.html']Qur'an 3:118[/URL] Mohsin Khan translation “Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme.” [URL='http://www.holybooks.info/sura_2.html']Qur'an 2:193[/URL] N. J. Dawood translation in "[I][URL='http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0140449205/65536-21']The Koran[/URL][/I]" (Penguin Books) The [URL='http://www.holybooks.info/quran.html']Qur'an[/URL] contains detailed instructions and examples of how to meet unbelievers. The [URL='http://www.holybooks.info/quran.html']Qur'an[/URL] states categorically that [URL='http://www.humanreligions.info/islam.html']Muslims[/URL] cannot have non-believers as friends, advisors, consultants or protectors ([URL='http://www.holybooks.info/sura_3.html']Qur'an 3:118[/URL]and [URL='http://www.holybooks.info/sura_4.html']4:144[/URL]). If a [URL='http://www.humanreligions.info/islam.html']Muslims[/URL] wife is, or becomes, a disbeliever, the marriage can be discontinued and the dowries paid for them can be demanded back ([URL='http://www.holybooks.info/sura_60.html']Qur'an 60:10[/URL]). The second instruction is that unbelievers should be called to [URL='http://www.humanreligions.info/islam.html']Islam[/URL]; in fact, the [URL='http://www.holybooks.info/quran.html']Qur'an[/URL] says you cannot wage war against unbelievers [I]until[/I] you have preached to them. The third instruction is that if they do not convert to [URL='http://www.humanreligions.info/islam.html']Islam[/URL], then, they must be fought. The fourth instruction is that if they surrender, or convert, then you must stop waging war. If they do not convert or surrender, then they must be killed. This is the optimum route for Islamist expansion: A tidal wave of war, subjugation and conversion. No misquotes here Newfman. Just quotes. [/QUOTE]
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