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<blockquote data-quote="moreluck" data-source="post: 1016987" data-attributes="member: 1246"><p>[h=2]<a href="http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/30/left-leaning-politifact-rates-cutters-claim-the-obama-recovery-has-created-more-jobs-than-reagans-recovery-false-says-reagans-was-more-than-four-times-bigger/" target="_blank">Left-Leaning PolitiFact Rates Cutter’s Claim The Obama “Recovery” Has Created More Jobs Than Reagan’s Recovery False, Says Reagan’s Was “More Than Four Times Bigger”…</a>[/h]<img src="http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cutter.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>Cutter lied? — Shocker.</p><p>Via <a href="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/27/stephanie-cutter/barack-obama-says-his-recovery-has-outpaced-ronald/" target="_blank">PolitiFact</a>:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Stephanie Cutter, President Barack Obama’s deputy campaign manager, said her boss one-upped President Ronald Reagan in economic rebuilding following a crippling recession. But was she right?</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">On the Aug. 22, 2012, edition of MSNBC’s<em>Morning Joe</em>, Willie Geist asked Cutter what argument she would make to someone who had been out of work under Obama and who was wondering whether it’s time for a change.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Cutter re</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">sponded, “Well, I think that worker probably has a good understanding of what’s happened over the past four years in terms of the president coming in and seeing 800,000 jobs lost on the day that the president was being sworn in, and seeing the president moving pretty quickly to stem the losses, to turn the economy around, and over the past, you know, 27 months we’ve created 4.5 million private sector jobs. That’s more jobs than in the Bush recovery, in the Reagan recovery, there’s obviously more we need to do….”</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Many readers contacted us to ask if the Obama recovery has really outpaced the recovery from the 1981-1982 recession under Reagan. (We’re focusing on the Reagan comparison because readers emailed us saying they thought Cutter was wrong.)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The answer is that, however you slice it, it hasn’t. Here’s a rundown. [...]</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The comparison is even more unflattering to Obama if you use a less cherry-picked time frame than the one Cutter used — one that starts when the <a href="http://www.nber.org/cycles/cyclesmain.html" target="_blank">recoveries officially began</a>, rather than the low point for jobs.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Using this formula, Obama’s numbers change quite a bit, since he’s suffered from the growing pattern of recoveries creating fewer jobs, and more slowly, than was typical in past recoveries.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The recession under Obama officially ended in June 2009. That means that the number of jobs continued to fall for another nine months before hitting rock bottom. Counting these nine extra months of job losses, Obama’s private-sector job creation total falls to 3.4 million over three years and one month.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">By contrast, using this formula actually boosts Reagan’s private-sector job-creation totals. The recession under Reagan officially ended in November 1982, almost simultaneously with the low point in jobs. Over the next three years and one month — the comparable period under Obama — the number of private-sector jobs increased by 9.1 million.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Taking into account the growth of the workforce overall, employment has grown by 3 percent during the Obama recovery, compared to 13 percent under Reagan.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Chalk up an even stronger win for the Gipper.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><strong>Our ruling</strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Even using Cutter’s cherry-picked formulation, job creation under Obama has dramatically trailed the pace set by Reagan. In fact, adjusting for the size of the workforce, <strong>Reagan’s recovery was more than four times bigger than Obama’s has been so far</strong>. We rate Cutter’s claim False.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="moreluck, post: 1016987, member: 1246"] [h=2][URL="http://weaselzippers.us/2012/08/30/left-leaning-politifact-rates-cutters-claim-the-obama-recovery-has-created-more-jobs-than-reagans-recovery-false-says-reagans-was-more-than-four-times-bigger/"]Left-Leaning PolitiFact Rates Cutter’s Claim The Obama “Recovery” Has Created More Jobs Than Reagan’s Recovery False, Says Reagan’s Was “More Than Four Times Bigger”…[/URL][/h][IMG]http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cutter.jpg[/IMG] Cutter lied? — Shocker. Via [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/27/stephanie-cutter/barack-obama-says-his-recovery-has-outpaced-ronald/"]PolitiFact[/URL]: [INDENT]Stephanie Cutter, President Barack Obama’s deputy campaign manager, said her boss one-upped President Ronald Reagan in economic rebuilding following a crippling recession. But was she right? On the Aug. 22, 2012, edition of MSNBC’s[I]Morning Joe[/I], Willie Geist asked Cutter what argument she would make to someone who had been out of work under Obama and who was wondering whether it’s time for a change. Cutter re sponded, “Well, I think that worker probably has a good understanding of what’s happened over the past four years in terms of the president coming in and seeing 800,000 jobs lost on the day that the president was being sworn in, and seeing the president moving pretty quickly to stem the losses, to turn the economy around, and over the past, you know, 27 months we’ve created 4.5 million private sector jobs. That’s more jobs than in the Bush recovery, in the Reagan recovery, there’s obviously more we need to do….” Many readers contacted us to ask if the Obama recovery has really outpaced the recovery from the 1981-1982 recession under Reagan. (We’re focusing on the Reagan comparison because readers emailed us saying they thought Cutter was wrong.) The answer is that, however you slice it, it hasn’t. Here’s a rundown. [...] The comparison is even more unflattering to Obama if you use a less cherry-picked time frame than the one Cutter used — one that starts when the [URL="http://www.nber.org/cycles/cyclesmain.html"]recoveries officially began[/URL], rather than the low point for jobs. Using this formula, Obama’s numbers change quite a bit, since he’s suffered from the growing pattern of recoveries creating fewer jobs, and more slowly, than was typical in past recoveries. The recession under Obama officially ended in June 2009. That means that the number of jobs continued to fall for another nine months before hitting rock bottom. Counting these nine extra months of job losses, Obama’s private-sector job creation total falls to 3.4 million over three years and one month. By contrast, using this formula actually boosts Reagan’s private-sector job-creation totals. The recession under Reagan officially ended in November 1982, almost simultaneously with the low point in jobs. Over the next three years and one month — the comparable period under Obama — the number of private-sector jobs increased by 9.1 million. Taking into account the growth of the workforce overall, employment has grown by 3 percent during the Obama recovery, compared to 13 percent under Reagan. Chalk up an even stronger win for the Gipper. [B]Our ruling[/B] Even using Cutter’s cherry-picked formulation, job creation under Obama has dramatically trailed the pace set by Reagan. In fact, adjusting for the size of the workforce, [B]Reagan’s recovery was more than four times bigger than Obama’s has been so far[/B]. We rate Cutter’s claim False. [/INDENT] [/QUOTE]
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