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Just curious... how irreplaceable do you think we are here, in case of a strike??
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<blockquote data-quote="anonymous4" data-source="post: 1019340" data-attributes="member: 30532"><p>I think they have more to lose than we do, although we would all lose something. I think it is comical how so many of you feel a strike needs to be completely off the table. Sorry, but if you feel that way, you need to get out of the union. That last action needs to ALWAYS be an option for us, knowing full well a strike is far from optimal, and understanding what it could mean for both sides. We need things changed right now or there might not be an option for us to strike in the coming contracts. We are going to pass along a very weak union for future generations to clean up if it isn't done right now. To me, something like two tier wages, discipline on performance/through telemantics and a few others MUST BE deal breakers or we strike and accept the consequences of that choice. </p><p></p><p>To answer your question, I think the same reason people come here to bitch and moan will also be the same reason they can't afford to let us strike. If you all truly believe a strike can't happen, we can't call their bluff and we can slowly let everything be taken from us. It won't be easy to replace 300,000 workers of our caliber. What is the first thing people will try to tell you? Your labor is unskilled and you are easily replaceable. Sure, I can tell you as a fact even on the inside, the operation wouldn't be as efficient for MONTHS with a new work force. Can you train a loader/unloader/sorter/pickoff in two weeks? Yes, and they will not be up to UPS standards for MONTHS, FACT. Drivers? How long would it take to have an entire new roster of drivers as efficient as the current lot? You just can't replace the SKILL SET that many of us have after so many years. Too many intangibles, with the way UPS needs production, you aren't going to have near the same numbers for a LONG time. Who must we keep a keen eye out for? People like UpstateNYUPSer, who would give everything away and sell you out over a false premonition. They have a vote but we must not let them infect others with their spew. You don't make bold statements like "without a two tier pay structure we will go under". Show me the proof, it is on you that such a thing needs to be considered with the way things are currently. Consistent raises with no concessions are the name of the game right now. Nothing less. </p><p></p><p>Do the teamsters and UPS need to get their <img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /><img src="http://*" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> together and figure out the fedex situation? Yes, that is one of the top things we should be concerned about, but talk of necessary concessions on our part is nothing more than an ill agenda being pushed. It is so obvious it is sickening.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="anonymous4, post: 1019340, member: 30532"] I think they have more to lose than we do, although we would all lose something. I think it is comical how so many of you feel a strike needs to be completely off the table. Sorry, but if you feel that way, you need to get out of the union. That last action needs to ALWAYS be an option for us, knowing full well a strike is far from optimal, and understanding what it could mean for both sides. We need things changed right now or there might not be an option for us to strike in the coming contracts. We are going to pass along a very weak union for future generations to clean up if it isn't done right now. To me, something like two tier wages, discipline on performance/through telemantics and a few others MUST BE deal breakers or we strike and accept the consequences of that choice. To answer your question, I think the same reason people come here to bitch and moan will also be the same reason they can't afford to let us strike. If you all truly believe a strike can't happen, we can't call their bluff and we can slowly let everything be taken from us. It won't be easy to replace 300,000 workers of our caliber. What is the first thing people will try to tell you? Your labor is unskilled and you are easily replaceable. Sure, I can tell you as a fact even on the inside, the operation wouldn't be as efficient for MONTHS with a new work force. Can you train a loader/unloader/sorter/pickoff in two weeks? Yes, and they will not be up to UPS standards for MONTHS, FACT. Drivers? How long would it take to have an entire new roster of drivers as efficient as the current lot? You just can't replace the SKILL SET that many of us have after so many years. Too many intangibles, with the way UPS needs production, you aren't going to have near the same numbers for a LONG time. Who must we keep a keen eye out for? People like UpstateNYUPSer, who would give everything away and sell you out over a false premonition. They have a vote but we must not let them infect others with their spew. You don't make bold statements like "without a two tier pay structure we will go under". Show me the proof, it is on you that such a thing needs to be considered with the way things are currently. Consistent raises with no concessions are the name of the game right now. Nothing less. Do the teamsters and UPS need to get their [IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG][IMG]*[/IMG] together and figure out the fedex situation? Yes, that is one of the top things we should be concerned about, but talk of necessary concessions on our part is nothing more than an ill agenda being pushed. It is so obvious it is sickening. [/QUOTE]
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